AI And music and future

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  1. Kate Middleton

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    interesting. recently i seen a random interview with Elon Musk stating in the next five years a.i will outperform and be smarter than humans. and he said in 5 years...
     
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    The media narrative depicts AI as an entity, that it's 'smart', but there's no such thing as artificial intelligence, it's just a stack of algorithms.
     
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    Back when marketing executives in America were brainstorming how to sell their product and what to call it, the name was quickly decided upon: AI—Artificial Intelligence.

    Consider this: when you buy a pizza, the label doesn't state where the ingredients come from, what damage they cause, or—most importantly—whether the product can be gotten rid of once introduced.

    As a consumer, you would have to pay a laboratory to find out exactly what is in it, and then you would need further experts to explain the impact of the supply chain, raw material extraction, and so on.

    The bottom line is that AI manufacturers will only report positive things about their product, because their goal is to make money.
     
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    Yes, you are always responsible for yourself, regardless of the product. :dunno:
     
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    Sure sure, just like he said he was "going to Mars" 3 years ago.

    AI needs to be able to count to 100 first, then we'll see about intelligence.
     
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    He also said on JRE that within 5-6 years, most media that people consume will be completely AI generated. That statement alone should make you realize Elon has absolutely no clue what he's talking about.

    He misses the whole point of why people fall in love with art, what it means to them and why AI can never replace artists. People cannot relate with AI, they can't go on the journey, the ups and downs, the euphoria and heartbreak that happens with real people and real artists.

    I could maybe see how kids born in the 2020s and beyond will be more receptive to completely AI-generated media, because it will be all they ever know. But it's still something we cannot predict. And even so, there will always be a demand for artists with DIY punk rock values.

    Don't worry about what these people say, just do your best to make the most honest art you can.
     
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    selling promises is great business indeed :trashing:
     
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    I'm blown away by the amount of people I know / have met that believe this is happening. By 2030 is what I think he said.
     
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    Stochastic inference is not intelligent. It's useful for sure, but it's no intelligent. AI label is just a hype to make us buy our own demise as the productivity increase it produces goes up the chain and left us poorer. It happened in the industrial revolution with the steam machine as well, same fucking scenario. Let's hope we are cleverer this time to retake it from the olygarchs hands and use ir for the benefit of all instead.
     
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    NEWS FROM ELON MUSK

    The AI industry is increasingly hitting physical limits. The next generation of large AI models requires not only better algorithms and more powerful chips but also vast amounts of electricity, cooling, physical space, grid connections, and permits. These very factors are evolving into strategic resources. Whoever resolves these bottlenecks gains not only additional computing power but also control over the industrial foundation of artificial intelligence.

    This is where Musk’s vision comes into play. In a recently released video, he outlined plans for SpaceX AI satellites. According to the concepts envisioned by Musk and Starlink executive Ian Dahl, an initial design is intended to achieve a peak output of 150 kilowatts and a continuous output of 120 kilowatts. Musk compares this power level to an Nvidia AI server rack. Power would be supplied by solar panels, while waste heat would be dissipated into space via radiators. Data transmission would be handled via laser communication. *Handelsblatt* editor Thomas Jahn has analyzed Musk’s plans as well as the roughly 300-page stock market prospectus.

    https://live.handelsblatt.com/musk-...e-naechste-infrastrukturrevolution-ausloesen/
     
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    "but elon musk said" is one of my favorite arguments in discussions about future developments.

    i rather trust my crystal ball.
     
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    It's BS. It will never happen. Musk is a fraud.
     
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    Elon does indeed have a penchant for instilling hope and it cannot be said he doesn't have a vested interest. I'm still a big fan. It's just business.
     
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    Nothing will integrate AI into your life more than a data center in your hood. So just keep quiet and buy more AI stock. You don't need water or power, our AI overlords do. Stop stealing from them by being passionate and creative while making your self-indulgent music. :guru:





    Post written by AI monitored hairless monkey
     
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    The water issue is actually not one, I don't know how people got fixated on this. It's really nothing compared to the idiotic things farmers and the government do with it.
    The impact on the grid is very real though.
     
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    AI is not a product anymore that you have the liberty of choosing for or not. They make sure that you have no choice but to accept it!
    The companies that develop these models have invested billions of dollars so they make sure we don't have a choice! We are forced to accept it more and more every day. AI Chatbots on commercial and government sites, AI music on Spotify, AI video's on social media platforms. It’s almost impossible not to have to deal with AI nowadays.
     
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    I simply can not see how those digital phenomena are disadvantageous.
    But I can understand people having trouble with it. It's advisable to reduce media consume, because that's where the trouble for the individuum is coming from as you can see here. :yes:
    The world continues even without someone knowing what someone else might have told him.
    I for example do not have any mass media information sources at all. And thats amazing, because for me literally nothing changed in the past 5 years due to this.

    No trouble. Absolutely untroubled. :thumbsup:

    Maybe people just want to be troubled then. :winker:
     
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    AI is sweeping every profession. Software and Music were among the first. You don't have to wait for 5 years. AI has already impacted the music industry. If you cannot play live, don't have a story to tell, or you cannot connect with humans, you could be replaced.
     
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    Its Elon so its a little hard to believe, but on paper its a good idea. I think. Right? Better to have noise and heat etc in the vastness of space than in Smalltown, USA?

    haha wow. ridiculous!
    Is it really not an issue? I haven't looked into it at all, but see it thrown around regularly.
     
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    big dreams but is often disappointing.
     
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