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Discussion in 'Ai for Music' started by tzzsmk, Jul 3, 2026 at 10:23 AM.

  1. Reploid

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    Did you use AI to write this? upload_2026-7-5_17-55-13.png
     
  2. Mynock

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    No, my dear. In fact, I take the trouble to write all my texts first in my native language and only use AI for translation afterward. But I'm flattered by the question... I had no idea we had an officer from the Anti-AI Police patrolling the fórum! Pleased to meet you and keep up the fine work, officer!

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    The problem is that even if you may not be knowingly doing so, the "auto-translation" component of the software you're using is making the final output "LLM-slop-ish". It makes much of it come across as very annoying to read. So even if you're not intentionally trying to use AI, the software you're using is doing more than a straightforward translation. It's using an LLM to rewrite a lot of what you're trying to convey in tiresome cliched "LLM-speak".
     
  4. Mynock

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    I am grateful for your concern. I should add that, when I commission a translation, I explicitly request that it remain as faithful as possible to my original text and refrain from unwarranted alterations. Translation is for me a practical necessity, not a creative crutch (the AI neither thinks/creates on my behalf)
    As to your expressed displeasure, I would point out that I am, by training, a music educator with a graduate degree, and I read extensively. If the final product of my writing strikes you as "irritating to read", it may well be because my prose (particularly on matters of some ensitive topics) tends toward a more technical register and less toward casual colloquialism.
    In any case, I thank you for the unsolicited literary critique. I shall continue to write in my own manner and to translate in the way that best suits me (I once relied on Google Translator, but it was unsatisfactory, and I have no intention of returning to it).
    If my writing style does not agree with you, do not worry, 'cos the internet is infinite, and no one is obliged to read or comment on anything they do not enjoy!
     
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  6. Colin

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    My honest thoughts on AI are this.

    If an AI tool or application can achieve comparable mixes & masters as a SKILLED human (who can also contribute creatively, has years of experience, knowledgeable opinions, craftsmanship and occasional moments of inspiration), then I'm fine with that. At this juncture, I don't believe it can. But developers, have at it! (as long as it is amazing and does a job, I couldn't care less if it's VIBE coded or your gran knitted it for you).

    Why?
    I would much rather focus my time, which is a limited resource, creating, playing, singing, arranging the actual music itself.(and writing lyrics). Also, if I was doing anything other than home demos, I would always use proper studios with proper SKILLED people.

    AI actually creating the music?

    On so many levels, GTF! All it's doing is robbing human artists and creating bland generic, pastiche slop, for people who should not be allowed anywhere near the creative space. The world is already FLOODED with SHITE music. All it is doing is adding to that. The deluge is now a tsunami.

    It has always surprised me that there is not more SERIOUS collaboration on these boards, as opposed to the one-man band, I know everything and can do it all mentality, (and here's my latest release, it's my 5th today, what do you think of it). Seriously? If you were in a studio or with other people, you'd already know the answer.

    I'm rightly sure there are some talents on here.

    Let's keep it quality, and more importantly, keep it human!

    Or we can all just whinge about things.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter! (and no, I'm not a fan) :rofl:
     
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  7. DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO)

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    Obviously, a lot of you have your mind made up that anything with the word AI near it instantly = the devil, laziness, lack of creativity, etc.

    It makes very little difference to me what you do and don't like, and I'm not gonna try to convince you that AI is good, I could care less.
    But assuming that I am not in a room surrounded by instruments, notating sheet music, don't listen to Stravinsky, or Frank Zappa, Scott Joplin, or w/e, and using that outlandishly misguided viewpoint to talk crap to and about a person who, just like yourselves, just did some thing they enjoyed doing as their form of creative outlet seems somewhat childish to me. (I'd like to see AI compose run-on sentences like that.)

    The amount of animosity that some of you feel comfortable directing at another 'social animal' because of the tools that they use while making music (with real instruments) and not even being willing to engage in a convo about what the thing actually is, their motivation, whether or not they make 'real' music and on and on should be a cause for introspection/self reflection.

    We can continue the AI lynch-mob if you'd like though (only if the hard working human mods are ok with it)

    But that's just like... my opinion man.

    I was under the impression that that is stealing, which I hear is wrong, especially if the word AI is anywhere near it.

    Thank you.

    This was made in ~1 day at Berklee College of Music hackathon, it was never initially intended for anyone else to use, but it got picked up and spread around the internet while I was on tour being a thieving, fake musician/slop-miser so here we are. :thumbsup:

    That being the case, we are now actively working on it due to the fan-fare such as that displayed in this sexy sound forum.

    It is being updated a lot to fix bugs, and clean up the workflow, and we are exploring different skins so people make it whatever color they want, whatever kind of sliders and knobs and encoders they want. There's also a VST creation tool (Foundry) in the newest release, the Owl (HRTF based spatial audio) and Ares (kinda like a KAOSS pad) were both made in it.

    If you have any issues with the install, please file an issue on github, message me on insta, write a letter, whatever works best for you.

    You... realize most AI does not involve prompting right? The face tracking on your phones camera (and likely even just your phone) use AI.
    Most of the AI in this program, does not involve your uninformed misconception that you are using in your argument, and there is zero prompting done while I'm dancing around on stage in my silly headset.

    The fact that we've been requested to speak at two of the biggest audio science/music colleges in the world doing this completely uncreative non-music is making me rethink the last 2 years of my life.

    Ehhhhhhh... I'd consider it if you were a little more open minded.

    That's all fair and bothers me none. I was somewhat confused why a perceived misnomer would make you anti anything, but then I remembered that I don't like AT&T because the second T stands for telegraph, and they have yet to provide me with telegraph service so I have no argument there.

    So this is why the bustling human-based translator industry has collapsed...
     
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    this daw will give you cancer.....lol...
     
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    If you apply this approach to music, AI is a very minimal problem. If you do not like a tool, don't use it. If you don't like a track? Don't listen to it. If you think your music is "getting buried by an avalanche of AI", it already was getting buried by junk anyway. If you want to say it "stole from your own 100% original music", show proof.

    Those of us continuing to make music the way we did before any AI tools surfaced, are not "surfing against the current". We're just doing the exact same things we were before because it sounds good. I can't even remember the last time I heard an AI generated track. Maybe that is a Youtube user's problem.
     
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  11. DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO)

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    Meh, the hydrazine, dioxin, ammonium perchlorate and hexavalent chromium will take care of me long before theDAW's cancer catches up.
     
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    Sharing is caring. I always thank my partners when they give me an STD.

    Yes, talking to a dog or a cat or anything like that, is not a strange phenomenon. People are not strictly logical machines.
     
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    @DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO) I don't find AI interesting because (in the music field) it still seems primitive to me.. What is relevant beyond the separation of the stems? Maybe training to change voices? Everything else is useless in my opinion.. For example, mastering in fl studio is bullshit! Maybe it is also interesting when implemented in plugins like isotope, but if there's AI everywhere, you might as well have suno or something create the song! Is it already possible to change skins in your DAW? All black and neon is a nightmare for some.. Sorry for my English, i don't feel like learning it better..
     
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    i dont see any point in using ai to generate songs in 5 seconds. its absolutely awful. horriawful
     
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    And what did you talk about exactly? How their music degree is useless and they should learn how to write better prompts instead of music?

    This is so fuck*d up. I never thought that these universities will be preferring these AI clowns over some real musician who can actually teach something about music to the students.
     
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    The world is going to sh*t. AI seems to fit very perfectly in the mix.
     
  17. Mynock

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    Thanks for the analogy you drew with my comment, but I must respectfully point out that we cannot reduce the presence of AI in music to a matter of taste alone. The proliferation of generated material raises much broader issues around scale, authorship, and saturation, along with wide-ranging influence on the upper tiers of production chains.
    So, it's not simply about an individual choosing whether or not to listen. It's about the sheer volume of algorithmically produced content reshaping visibility, discoverability, and the cultural value of original works, which cannot keep pace with such output.
    Thus, this is not merely a subjective issue or an individual preference, it's a structural concern. That said, I fully agree that everyone is free to create music in whatever way they wish. My concern is simply: May AI be a supportive tool, but not become the command that smothers human autonomy.
     
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    Irony aside, I was surprised to learn that the focus of your post wasn’t actually the current state of the translation industry. For me, what matters is fidelity between what I think, the text I produce, and the translation that’s made. Yes, nowadays translation can be a practical convenience provided by AI... but the thinking and the authorship remain mine alone. :yes:
    Whether the translation industry thrives or declines, the central point, which refers to what you produced and presented to us, remains the same:
    May AI be a supportive tool, not the editor that erases the presence of musicians, composers, and human creators. :invision:
     
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    @DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO) you handle your bad self very well sir.

    Good luck, how about an 8 track sampling &/or recording audio sketch book, save me having to fire up Cubase and start a new project, then can load stems in DAW.

    AI will never be able to write the 'unique' (many of my critics say) kind of music I do because it has no influence and can't listen, these are the only skills a songwriter needs to possess.

    The majority of musicians are not songwriters, musicianship is a trade, learnt, to a degree, there's no degrees for songwriting/producing and speaking empirically, you certainly don't have to be a musician to write decent music, in fact musicianship can and often does stifle creativity.

    AI is human made and can't operate without human input, if AI could write great stuff I would need to hear it.

    The musicians union, gigging muso's, others, were up in arms, petitioning about synths & drum boxes in early 80's taking work from them, ignorant self-righteous arrogant Luddites.

    Nobody is interested or cares what you as an individual like or don't like and I don't care about AI's putting me out of a job cos it can't, it can only collect and rearrange it's data, hmm, bit like us eh.

    I find it odd that folk who can't actually write a song are shit scared of a machine that also can't? and even if it could, i could write something just as good, probably better, should be your resume.

    AI is just another tool that's being over promoted as a game changer for the high arts, it isn't, it can't even draw a straight line on a screen, so it's completely useless for my drawing style, so I'll have to continue with pen und paper for now anyway eh.
     
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