If you don't want to write dozens of separate messages, you can use "multi quote"..

... You could create an AI chatbot and then ask it how to use the basic functions of a forum!

 

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You could automate it. Why not? Claude (or whatever you use) is here to help you.

P. S. You "try" to spam. Not by your messages. Your creation is a machine of spam. Sorry.

 

Sorry for just popping into this thread, just saw it on the feed and since I made a thread about your software in another forum, yesterday, I figured I could just ask you here.

Just because you can, doesn´t mean you should... But I also have a genuine question. Are you planning to actually support your software or were you just trying to put something out that´s basically the equivalent of Homer´s car, you know, all the features no one really wants in a package no one really wants to drive. That GUI alone will probably prompt potential users to turn around on their heels...
If you are planning to support it, it must be a nightmare, because the whole software looks like an AI fever dream, so I guess there´s no version control and things like that? The next added feature or bug fix could potentially overwrite tons of code that´s then just lost in the void?

 

Insane how just because someone mentions AI gets downvoted like that. Can't wait to test out this DAW, already have quite a few ideas. One question, can this be somehow integrated with ComfyUI? Would be so cool, would ease my WFs quite a bit

 

That´s not the reason.
This software looks like it was built with LLMs/coding agents (so basically stolen code) and seems like it also relies on the work of other people for all its functions. It basically wraps stable-audio-tools, Magenta RealTime by Google DeepMind, Suno, T5Gemma by Google, Demucs by Meta AI, music21 by MIT, alphaTab, OpenSheetMusicDisplay, MuseScore, PyTorch and other stuff into a hallucinated GUI.
If you think that´s great, fine, but the reason stuff like that is disliked by many is not "just because someone mentions AI".


Edit; Enviromental and ethical concerns aside and focusing solely on the user side there are some legitimate concerns: If this software gets updates and bug fixes or if the person responsible will maybe one day just abandon their project for something else, who knows..

 

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Negative feedback is here because we already know how it will end ...
OceanGate Titan
When ppl are so full of ideology and so called "good ideas", it always end badly.

Of course, it is not dangerous compared to 5 ppl dying in a "submarine" controlled with a game pad...

 

Oh man, what a plot twist!

@DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO) , maybe your DAW isn't successful here, but I'm sure many we'd be amazed to hear about your avatar pic. Which is, no matter how you look at it, a big success.

You know... for a friend... for the science?

 

Ugly.

Using a piece of software (and hardware as well oc) should always be a bit of joy. I don't see it here.
A lackluster and uninspired UX put together from cut&paste building blocks. I don't even want to talk about that as a 'design'.
Id'd call it the LEGO Daw in the future.

 

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That'd be against forum policy I believe. If you wanna try, I will allow you to go first.
Thank you for making me aware of the multiquote. This knowledge will be assimilated and made ours.

See above response.
'Machine of spam' is a great term.
Spam became a staple in Hawaiian food due to the poverty and other conditions of the island just after 'The War' (the second one) and I made this so people that grew up in poverty wouldn't have to sacrifice their paychecks to the the Keepers of DAWdom just so they could express themselves through music or visual production.
There's some dots unconnected there, feel free to use your imagination.

Hey thanks for reaching out, Jurassic Park was an integral piece of making me the AI-engineered theme-park monster I am today., and so was the Simpsons so I appreciate the compliments
Sorry, I'm autistic and literally lived in a tipi with very little modern technology so I make it look cool. Plus when I wasn't in a tipi, I was growing up with neon everywhere so that's another bad stylistic decision that AI happens to love a lot so (as well as Unicode and emojis, but I won't allow that garbo near my code, just forum responses)

I started theDAW as a hackathon project and went completely insane on it because my childhood friend, and gf of several years had just died, and I lost my house and a ton of sob story. I didn't intend on doing anything with it besides maybe making a few hundred bucks at a hackathon at a school I couldn't afford (Berklee College of Music) and while I was actually out on tour the next week it just exploded in popularity and I've been going even more insane on it ever since. Changing tense here... GANTASMO is two people, Josh Valenzuela is the other, and we intend on supporting it. I programmed pick and place machines, did computer vision for a team that made it to the DARPA Robotics Challenge Finals, and have been lead dev, head of R&D, and CTO for multiple companies, including some very big ones. So I assure no code will be nuked or lost to the void.

Yes, that can be done and we will make it so. Thank you for your interest and enthusiasm about this project that started as something completely different that I never imagined would lead to conversations such as this.

I already responded to some of this in my response to your previous comment, but yes, some was built with LLMs, mostly local so the environmental thing is negligible on top of the fact that this is designed for the user to run most of the features locally (or all if they want to miss out on very few features) This forum uses more power than that app does, I made it on a laptop with 6gb vram, and it's all running locally on my setup, though I can't do the Lora training on 6GB VRAM, so I use my other computer.

Regarding it being a 'wrapper' what do you think every program and the entire internet is? Basically every multimedia program you can name is just a siloed, gatekept, paywalled FFMPEG wrapper.

Also, if you look into the github or wherever you read that info from, you might read that GANTASMO has had a fairly lengthy history of working with those companies in some form or fashion, so I'm not just stealing someone else's work, and blah blah, I wont toot my own horn anymore because I assume you get the point.

Thank you for your questions, If you have anymore I will allow them to accumulate and respond with the courteous multiquote feature that this really awesome forum has bestowed upon us.

EDIT: Stealing this meme.

 

Fortunately we have really great free DAWs like Reaper (endless evaluation period), Tracktion Waveform Free, Apple Garageband, Bandlab and others and also free solutions for video production/visuals for anyone who wants to express themselves through music or visual production. There´s also a huge pool of really good free plugins and online learning ressources, so anyone who wants to express themselves can already do that.
So it´s really about the generative features in your software.

And that´s really not the issue I have with your software.

Yeah, I noticed you guys have experience. Anyways, you seem to see this project as tool for poor people to break free and express themselves musically/visually. Generative AI and LLMs are already drowning out real creative people by enabling anyone to just flood everything with slop, so to me your reasoning is just completely backwards...

 

This is a general misconception. Creativity does not have to do with effort.
AI reduces effort, not creativity. What it really does is just forcing people to be self-confident about their productions because the inflation of ai music is surely going to ruin the industry if the industry is not going to force something (which likely is going to happen).

However, small producers are not going to profit economically anyways - that will be their advantage.

 

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Your're absolutely right! What year are we living in? 2024??
What I would do: Setup OpenClaw on a Mac mini, feed Screen and Sound from the main machine to it via HDMI capture device, give it mouse and keyboard control and we're good to go.
With a setup like this, releasing 4 to 5 hundred albums over one weekend shouldn't be a big deal, and even if the music is crap, some of it would be streamed.
After the first ten thousand albums it should generate a steady income.

 

Artificial intelligence brings both benefits and challenges, in music, it often feels like we have been demoted to the role of the chain's rustiest link. No disrespect, Bach, Stravinsky, Villa-Lobos, But look, @DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO), the fear is that initiatives like yours might make us redundant.

The promise of automation is exciting, but what worries many (like me) is how easily material can now be generated without a single trained professional in sight, just a prompt box and a lot of optimism!

But, the bigger issue, in my view, is quality, or what's left of it. We're living in a culture so addicted to short formats that we'd probably ask Beethoven to condense the Fifth Symphony into a 15-second reel. This "less is more" mantra is creeping into creative industries, though sometimes it just feels like "Less is less, but speed it up, dude!" As a direct result of so many conveniences, producers are already wondering if hiring outsourced professionals is worth it when an AI can spit out a video or music track from a prompt that takes less time to type than ordering a latte (note to self: AI never asks for a salary increase!). Indie game developers are bravely holding the line against AI assets (pitchforks sharpened), while big studios are gleefully mashing the "generate" button like they've just discovered fire. This is definitely shifting the market balance (and our collective anxiety!).

Never forget that Art is vulnerable in this scenario, but music might be the most fragile link. After all, no one has ever taped a banana to a wall in the music industry and sold it for 20k, right? Unlike visual art, where a newcomer can randomly sell a canvas for a "small fortune", musicians are often left counting streaming pennies!

That's why musicians are more than a little uneasy. I wouldn't focus so much on comments about the interface or interactive features, but on the creative possibilities and their impact. It's the idea of AI becoming an "infinite sampler generator": Press a button, get a song, and maybe an existential crisis on the side!. In this dystopian sitcom (next season or tomorrow?), the ones who actually spent years mastering their craft are left wondering if their diploma now works better as a coffee coaster!

 

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With a lot of hate online but near zero articulation of any resistance movements that make any kind of impact againts what is coming? Yep, I bet on that too, sadly.

I'm going to give "The Daw" some tests. It's free (we very much like free here). It can run local models, it can train loras. I will ditch suno and google models for ideological reasons, but that's my own thing. It's I'm sure it will spit the metallic ugly sound whatevers the diffusion models output always are. The code is on the open so I can desing a custom UI that suits me as well. But the future of sound desing and experimentation lies pretty much on the latent space which is the pigment to be explored of our time. If you think creative people think that is not worth the effort cause some tech appeared on the horizon... why the fuck all the museus and art residencies around the world are exploring it right now?

People tend to simplify the tech with the industry behind the tech and they are not the same. This tech was subsidize with your taxes, comes from public institutions, based on public datasets... Some techlords snatch it to get richer and make you poorer and you look at the finger not at the the moon but whatever.


Hey @DanielJTrujillo(GANTASMO) I've been studing your proyect and it exposes some really cool features that practically no one here are going to understand like LoRAs stacking additively. Are you planning to implement others like seed-morph/latent-interpolation? It will be cool to have a knob that can do that. I've experimented a lot back on the Deforum days with Parsec and it will be cool to have that kind of granularity for sound as well. Just because XD.

For everything else, the thievery, the explotation, the unjust rules, they were here way before this tech arrive, so as always, stop whinning, brace for impact and fucking unionize.

 

Yeah, the future isn't set in stone anywhere... and in practice, the ones really calling the shots are the companies controlling the apps and distribution, often just buying up smaller studios for a little snack.
Precisely because the resistance hasn't properly rallied in full force yet, it's more than fair to have legitimate worries about copyright, fair pay, and cultural sustainability.
Being creative is awesome, but being naive is a dangerous game... experimentation is all good (it’s like a kind of hallucinogen, giving you that indescribable high), but throwing away the work of those who studied their whole lives as if it were outdated is, at the very least, some serious tunnel vision.
Resistance does exist, in the form of artist collectives, professional associations, and public debates on cultural policy, but we really can’t afford to be that clueless... or to trust that fintech execs are deeply concerned about musicians’ quality of life!

 

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apparently majority of the sister site are samples and libraries for musically challenged producers that skip proper sounddesign for premade samples, so I guess there's a supply&demand for any fetish

 

If you mean multi quote, no, it is not against the forum rules. It's the right way to reply to multiple people without writing dozens of individual messages.

If you meant my suggestion, that's not against the rules either. You can train your AI chatbot, and then ask it to teach you how to look at a forum interface and understand the various tools available to you, such as multi quote.