As a programmer, I tried AI

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  1. mino45

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    Next step will be to replace your gf with AI entirely.
     
  2. clone

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    Might not be a bad idea to keep it in mind they are probably asking it about you.
     
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  3. Demloc

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    As I non-programer I've been doing simple stunts work related, like a system to ask / give feedback / organize /and publish designs for my main client that has decreased the workload on stupid admin / email exchanges to a quarter of what it was.
    Also I've been tailoring all my work software with little scripts: automated renaming artboards based on client/project, automating naming exports, and basically automating everything tedious or repetitive in my personal workflow that it's linked to the above project for maximun click reduction XD.

    All with local model "Devstral Small 2507 24B Q8 128k context" via https://openwebui.com/

    Also I've been learning a lot of Max4Live visual programming and creating my own quirky devices.

    It takes time to get results, it's not aladin's lamp. But I wouldn't imagine myself doing this stuff before the models. For simple projects, web programming/animation (making crazy gsap stuff that took me days in just minutes is magic), and non huge database stuff it's really good.

    I've programer friends that uses Claude Code extensively like is a new way of doing things, they told me that they focus more on architechture and planning at the begining and then agentifies everything and debugs piece by piece. For what they told me senior programmers/software engineers + ai are being the GOAT. Newbys relaying on it without the ability to weed out the bugs are just going to not be needed. No entry level ever again. Which sucks. Unionize hard people.

    Also I've been seeing around experimental projects that are creating UI interfaces for this new way of doing things, like you're playing a RTS or 4x game like Civilization: establish a goal, gather resources, builds troop (agents) and then tackles the goal. It's seems that the RTS UIs are going to be the direction to visually program in the future, which is crazy logic.
     
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  4. Olaf

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    "Gemini - I understand your frustration! "

    i get that very often.....
     
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  6. Xupito

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    What GPU?
     
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    You made my weekend, thank you very much, friend!
     
  8. xorome

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    I have this theory that the reason some people have been so grumpy/toxic on this forum lately is because the recent Cloudflare outages also repeatedly took down their AI girlfriends.
     
  9. Somnambulist

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    @Xupito - I found there is one thing any user MUST do if they wish to do many things in one session with Gemini, ChatGPT or CoPilot.

    Assume it gets the first thing you ask for right... If you then wish to continue and have it do a similar thing, but to do a different object, or a different way of doing the same thing, you MUST tell it what not to do explicitly. In such a way it cannot possibly misinterpret what you ask for. Sometimes, starting a new session is the better way.

    If you do not want it to change something you have supplied I found there are two ways to ensure it understands that:
    1. "No regeneration" - this means whether images of any kind or code, you are telling it that it is not to do its own thing and add anything you did not ask for. For some reason "No post-processing" it has difficulties with regularly.
    2. I found if I always start with "You do not have permission to...." and list what it is not allowed to do, the success rate is towards the highest possible outcome. "No deviation" is another thing it understands providing you have explicitly listed exactly what you want it to do.

    Dealing with A.I. is like dealing with a 6-year old child with the brain of a Computing Science and Math PhD. :rofl:

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    HYPOTHETICALLY:
    lets say you want it to add compression a specific way to an audio file you supply and it has the capability to use every major studio effect - and you specify the ratio, attack, release, knee and threshold. In many cases, if you do not tell it that this is all it is allowed to do, there is an even chance it may decide it did not like your loudness settings, or your EQ or something else and then go ahead and add a pile of things you did not ask for.
     
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  10. Demloc

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    You'll need at least a 3090/4090 to not fall into RAM offloads if you are going to put medium context. But there are quantized versions that you can run on a 16gb vram with some degradation (that in code isn't at all ideal, tbh, I preffer RAM offloads and wait). On a 5090/32gb runs perfect, plenty room for the context, but if you're going to use the 5090 just for this it makes no sense. Way cheaper to run it on cloud. I use it for other aspects of my work, this is a very big plus on top.

    And Devstral is an european open source model, if you fancy the politics involved around software :wink:
     
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    @xorome lol, yo that reminds of me this. the future of customer service is about to be crazy when someone is blaming you for killing their partner because the power went out
     
  12. clone

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    It's going to be exactly the opposite. I'll explain what are you seeing, because I dealt with this a long time ago with similar situation.

    I had at one point 4 full time techs I was managing. They were all really good at their jobs. As the business expanded over the years, I was up to 25 of them. Every time I had to interview another one of them, onboard and train them; one of the "higher tier techs" would soon stop by my office and tell me about how these new guys were never going to hack the job. I found it amusing by a certain point, as I was the one with their resumes and qualifications and the 90 page paper new hire packet I had to put together on every one of them.

    Thats what you have currently going on there. Those senior people know just as little about it as the people walking in the door at 1/3 their hourly rate or salaries. Now, wether or not they see it coming clearly enough already to try sabotaging people; they are going to figure out that lots of the experience and skills they have now are going to be the bare minimum of anyone new walking in the door for an interview.

    At first it will seem like remedial office politics. Soon, you will be taking bets about who is next to get voted off the island. Hint: they will be the ones making the most money.
     
  13. naitguy

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    AI-world or not, it is not a new thing that senior developers can get pretty stale in their roles. I'm at an age where I'm probably in between and I have 20+ years of development experience. Lucky enough for me, I do things on the side to keep skills more current and keep myself knowledgeable, but I have no delusions that young people will stop being needed. Aside from the fact that they usually have go-getter energy that tends to dwindle as you stay with a company for a long time, they also are trained on cutting edge technology from the get go. It's the law of the jungle. I'm not the least bit worried about it, as I'll adapt... but it's crazy to think that young programmers will be come unneeded. No.

    I will say too that where I am, actual coding is starting to become niche and being replaced either by "low code" type stuff, or outsourced to contractors (in which case we just become that "I have people skills!!!" guy from Office Space that just acts as a liason/button pusher between our business user and the vendors lol).

    I will say the older you get the more irreplaceable you feel you are, but the more replaceable you really are. At least that is my experience where I am right now. Young employees NEVER get laid off/fired, unless you're an absolute idiot. Older folks are the first to get laid off when times are tough, however.

    My last job though, I worked with some people who were close to retirement that were fantastic at their job.. extremely knowledgeable about our business and very good at coding. It was rare, but the odd person there was terrible at coding. Now where I am, most of the people in late 50s+ are fucking mailing it in so bad. It's a union job, however. Unions protect the underachievers.
     
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  14. clone

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    You sound like you’ve read a couple of Oncken books and already know that usually, new “absolute idiots” just get the person who hired them fired.

    I think people saying AI will wipe out juniors and save seniors have it backwards. I’ve written ISO-controlled SOPs, built RASIC tracking, and audited the work later. Once it’s documented and auditable, the person doing it isn’t special anymore. Juniors will show up with AI as baseline, follow the process, pass audits, and cost way less. That’s the part people don’t want to say out loud.

    If your value as a senior is just “I know how to do the thing,” you’re not safe, you’re expensive. Someone telling themselves otherwise is mostly wishful thinking. Look at the company you actually work at: do they ever clearly care about people? Will higher-ups protect your career, or theirs? Is a column on a spreadsheet more important than reality? I think you already know the answer. It's alright though, because so do they. None of this is actually new, AI just will speed it up. I used to joke about when we would be installing the revolving doors.
     
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