routing output from a vst to another vst

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  1. funkman

    funkman Ultrasonic

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    Hi, i want to route the output of a plugin to a synth.
    im following a tutorial,and i have to route the output of monoplugs bstep cm edition to dune cm.
    How do i do this? cubase 15 pro
    thanks
     
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  3. clone

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    If you are already following a tutorial, why don't you post it?
     
  4. funkman

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    a lot of hoops to jump through to take pic of it hook phone up to pc,etc etc
    its cm mag 234 page 55 if thats any use
    didnt think posting the tutorial would be any advantage
     
  5. PulseWave

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    The Standard & Easiest Way in Cubase (works in Cubase 15 Pro)
    1. Create an Instrument Track and load Dune CM into it (this will be your sounding synth).
      • Name it something like "Dune CM Synth" for clarity.
    2. Create a second track — this time a normal MIDI Track (not instrument track).
      • Do NOT load any VST into this MIDI track.
    3. On this MIDI Track:
      • Set the MIDI Output (in the Inspector, top of the track inspector) → choose the Dune CM instrument track. (It will appear in the list as something like "Dune CM" or the name of your instrument track.)
    4. On the same MIDI Track:
      • Add B-Step CM as a MIDI Insert effect:
        • Open the Inspector → MIDI Inserts section → click an empty slot → choose B-Step CM from the list (it should appear under MIDI plug-ins / sequencers).
    5. Done!
      • Now put your MIDI data / notes on the MIDI track that has B-Step as insert — but honestly most people just use B-Step's internal pattern sequencer.
      • When you play the project, B-Step generates MIDI → that MIDI is processed through the insert → gets sent out the MIDI track output → hits Dune CM → you hear sound.
     
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    Yeah, except that is not what he is asking. He's not saying to insert the pattern sequencer before the synth plugin or there is no reason to ask this question. Rather, he wants to send the midi output of the virtual synth to the pattern sequencer.

    Open the Bstep sequencer to the settings page and you will see there are options for virtual ports, midi in from host, etc.
     
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    Firstly, these are "computer music" special editions you're working with yes? Are you certain they have MIDI in/output capability? If yes, then it should be simply a matter of using the cubase "routing" tab from your b-step instrument track using the second group of controls under the routing tab, and set the first and second pull down menus to your B-Step - then set the third pull down for ANY output.
    Next move to your Dune CM instrument track, and in the first set of pull down menus under the routing tab, set the first menu (the midi input to your Dune) to the B-Step, and the second pull down to ANY input. If all instruments are MIDI I/O capable you should now be able to trigger the Dune from the B-step.

    Lastly, if your not seeing the instruments appearing in the routing settings menus then most likely they are not capable of MIDI I/O..
     
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    instruments are a type of plug-in which do not have audio inputs - that is their main difference to effects.
     
  9. funkman

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    thanks but only cubase midi inserts appear in the midi inserts
     
  10. PulseWave

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    Some instruments do have inputs that can be routed through their effects, filter, even envelopes, or used as OSCillators, depending on the synth. However, I don't think Dune CM can do any of that. Some instruments have two different versions: one that has FX inputs and one that hasn't. Admittedly, it can be confusing. :wink: Read the Dune CM's manual and see if it supports audio inputs.
     
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    Monoplugs B-Step CM is VSTi an instrument.

    Synapse Audio Dune CM The "Quick Guide" as a PDF is attached to the file.

    Hello @funkman, please delete your "monoplugs bstep cm" and download the new version, it has an FX version:

    surge-synthesizer/b-step - BStep-2024-07-28-3f935f8-Windows-64bit-setup - FREE
    Info: https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/b-step
    Download: https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/b-step/releases/tag/Nightly

    The B-Step Sequencer is a midi generating plugin and program which was originally authored by Monoplugs and its principal Thomas Arndt. In March of 2022, after he had open sourced Monique with the Surge team, Thomas donated the B-Step source to the Surge Synth Team.

    Another Infos on KVR: https://www.kvraudio.com/product/b-step-sequencer-by-surge-synth-team

    B-Step Sequencer by Surge Synth Team / Monoplugs is a Virtual Instrument and a Virtual Effect Audio Plugin and a Software Application for macOS, Windows and Linux. It functions as a VST Plugin, an Audio Units Plugin, a VST 3 Plugin and a Standalone Application.
     
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    No. Just the output of the pattern sequencer to the virtual synth.

     
  14. funkman

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    in the computer music tutorial they are using dune cm and b step cm although they use ableton
     
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    thanks, in the tutorial they use bstep cm so should be able to do it with that version although they use ableton. perhaps it cant be done in cubase with the cm version of bstep.
     
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    can you not route the channel output of the vst as input for the other channel?

    This shouldnt be so difficult, its a basic thing in every DAW.

    i would consider your DAW manual and look for routing of channel inputs and outputs.
     
  17. audioplg

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    create instrument track add monoplug.
    create second instrument track add dune, then under midi inputs where it usally says "all midi inputs" click there in the list at the bottom there will be plugins and "chord pad" should at least be there and below it there should be you mono plug there select that. then create track.
    make sure record enable is on, on the dune track or it wont recive midi

    option 2 if you allready have project with the plugs in.
    click on dune track
    on the right under inspector look for routing under that you should see the input routing and usally All MIDI Inputs again
    click that and there in the list at the bottom there will be plugins and "chord pad" should at least be there and below it there should be you mono plug there select that.
    once again make sure record enable is on, on the dune track or it wont recive midi

    i dont have your mnonplug patten sequencer but all that works with scaler plugin.
    i also checked to see if the order that you add the instrument tracks matter but it dosent.
    so if you dont see your monoplug in that list it maybe is just broken in cubase 15 and you need a newer version.
     
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    Yeah, I figured that it's not about routing audio but MIDI. That should be simple, but our regular Cubase users will know better.

    There we go, @audioplg :wink:
     
  19. funkman

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    got it sorted using option 1 here . thanks

    is sugar bytes artillery 2 the same process?
     
  20. PulseWave

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    Congratulations @funkman and yes, this works with all Midi FX plugins!
    https://sugar-bytes.de/de/artillery2
     
  21. audioplg

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    Congratulations @funkman and No,
    As sugarbyts artillery is a audio fx vst it works abit difrent.
    if you just want to send midi to a audio fx that can recive it
    after you have the audio fx inserted on a track.
    create a new midi track and in the midi outputs at the top of the list there will be Side-Chain
    you will see "trackname" : "ins. number." "fxname" - "event in or midi in" so select the track and plugin insert (ins. number.) you want from that list ie "CM Dune 01: ins.02. Artillary2 - Midi In" and create midi track.
    any midi you play /record on this midi track will go the the plugin to do its automation/Control.

    if you want the midi from say your mono plug to control artillary
    then you will have to select monoplug as an input on that midi track as well when you create it, like you did with crating the dune track option 1.
    or you can do it after in the inspector like in option 2.

    Also again remember to arm the midi track that is reciving midi from monoplug or any other vst instrument that sends midi
     
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