Moving from Win 10 LTSB to LTSC

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  1. EddieXx

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    Thanks for that info. that would be a big nono for me if that is the case. Im pretty much an s1 (fender 8) user... what a bummer it that would force me going w11... darn
     
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    Studio One v6 still works on 21H2, but I guess you want to have the latest version (v8).
     
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    ...and various users say, that W11 was OK up to 23H2, then the efficiency dropped in 24H2 and then went unusable on 25H2 (because of too many background processes that are hard to turn off). There is only one LTSC edition of Win 11 - 24H2. I don't use it yet, but I guess it is less bloated than normal editions, so it should be OK.
     
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    makes you wonder if so how many people are running regular w11 professionally. if its that bad
     
  5. Piszpunta

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    Well, for many professions OS efficiency is not crucial. Also, many users have powerful enough hardware to cover for the OS inefficiency.

    I am observing the current global movement of switching from Win to Linux (mostly Mint or Ubuntu). (Well, even Fender Studio Pro is offered also for Linux.) If Microslop will still go in current direction, I will consider to go Linux as well.
     
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    Where do these rumors about Windows being a bad operating system keep coming from? In reality, it's stable and does what it's supposed to. It seems some users have a negative feeling about it, but there's no proof.

    I started with Windows 95, then Windows XP, then Windows 7, then Windows 10, then Windows 11. 28 years of Windows and I'm happy with how it is. Somehow everything has become better, faster, and sharper.

    I think you shouldn't blame your own dissatisfaction on the operating system. Instead, you should analyze your life and try new approaches to become more content and happy. How about reading a book or taking a walk in nature?
     
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    I am running an optimized 21H2 win10 pro build on my production machine for a few years with no plan to ever mess with win11 - No LTSB, LTSC, Enterprise etc, etc, just pro... Also, no internet, no updaters, no firewalls, no anti-virus, and many other resource sapping garbage wares are left on that build. I have never had any install issues with anything that said it "required" any particular win version. As an example, Cubase since about v12 or v13 has "required" certain win versions in their specs that were way above my 21H2. Never had any issues either with installation or operation of Cubase all the way up to the latest version. My guess is that if you're really having problems installing stuff due to win versioning it's more than likely due to that "LTSC" moniker more than anything else.
     
  8. Piszpunta

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    Did you try to install Studio One v7?
     
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    Actually tried the new one (that Fender thing) on a test machine (21H1) and did not like at all. Had no issues with installing but the daw is junk IMO so I deleted it. Tried Studio one a few years back and bit-bucketed that as well. No issues with installing.
     
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  10. ELJUNTADERO2022

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    u need to check this
     
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    Seriously? Have you ever tried using any OEM win version since Windows for Workgroups, just out of the box, with no optimization? You must be living in a dream world if you figure OEM windows <any version> is a bright and shiny new happy town filled with joy and happiness out of the box. You need a serious reality check...

    Windows can be made to be stable to do what it is supposed to do only after installing a superlite image and after extensive end user modifications to make it that way. It doesn't come that way out of a box. Your proof is sitting just a click away in your "AI" bot you're always spewing from. Look it up.

    IMO, apple OS is actually worse in this area because there's no way of optimizing it.

    Optimizing == making it user safe on the internet out of the prying eyes of the OEM, also getting rid of all the insane wasted resource hogging garbage that comes with it for production use..
     
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    All you need to do is optimize your PC for music production and uninstall or disable many unnecessary applications and services.

    Don't let audio glitches ruin your performances! www.cantabilesoftware.com/glitchfree/

    O&O ShutUp10++:Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11
    www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
    In reality, Windows 11 works perfectly and without problems once you have configured it correctly.
     
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    I used windows all my life, I think I'm quite a pro.

    You can open it and change air in your room, call friends outside and look at beautiful birds flying.

    In winter better to close it if it's too cold outside.
     
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    You obviously haven't done a windows build lately I guess. Most of the functionality of those "optimizer" tools have been circumvented by microsoft. As in, the methods those tools use to "fix" many OS exploits have been patched so they dont work. There are a scant few of the devs putting out those tools that are fast enough to update them to keep up with microsoft patching but not many. Optimization is done by a superlite build and methodical reverse engineering by the end user. I really am at a loss to figure out where you get your information as a great many of the folks on this forum will corroborate the exact same thing I am advocating here... whatever .. the direction this is heading in is just a waste of time at this point.

    Cheers!
     
  15. PulseWave

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    I have a purchased version of Windows 11 Home 23H2.
    I also purchased "Stop Windows Updates" (https://greatis.com/stopupdates10/)
    and wanted to stop Windows Updates because they were causing system problems and errors.
    I also purchased "Stop Windows Updates" (https://greatis.com/stopupdates10/)
    and stopped Windows Updates because they were causing system issues and errors.

    ... I uninstalled all unnecessary programs and restricted or disabled them using "O&O ShutUp10++". O&O ShutUp10++ does the following: disable Windows Copilot+ Recall, adjust security settings, protect privacy, control location services, control Windows Update, prevent sharing of diagnostic and user data, and disable telemetry for Microsoft Office.

    Then I made a full backup of my C:/ drive using "Ashampoo Backup Pro 27" (www.ashampoo.com/de-de/backup/requirements#product-navigation) so that I can always completely restore my system in case of a virus infection or other problems. Then, following the instructions "Don't let audio glitches ruin your performances!" (www.cantabilesoftware.com/glitchfree/), I optimized my PC for music production.

    As you can see, what I do is very transparent and understandable for others reading this. I started using Windows 95 in 1998. I then worked with Windows XP, Windows 7, and Windows 10, and now I have a second PC with Windows 7 and my main PC with Windows 11. I assembled and built all the PCs myself, except for the first one. I've also assembled and built several PCs for friends and acquaintances, and of course, installed and configured the operating system.

    My knowledge comes from books, PC magazines, blogs, and practical experience. 28 years of computer experience.
    I have successfully helped many people with their computer problems! I'm also a musician and sound designer.

    I understand that you have a different opinion, and that's fine.However, what I don't understand at all—and I find this quite rude and disrespectful—is how you drag everything I write through the mud, question it, and then make fun of me. I won't stand for that.

    Certainly, a clean version of Windows without all the bloatware is the better Windows for music production, ideally offline. But modern people also want a Windows that can handle everything from internet browsing and photo and video editing to games and digital media. Audio workstation and much more – the full version of Windows offers all of this.

    With modern tools, a little work, and professional instructions and software, you can run Windows safely and stably.
    If you also use an AMD Ryzen CPU and sufficient RAM, you'll have a modern, fast operating system.

    The crucial point with Windows is that its updates and data collection practices are unacceptable, which is why they need to be disabled. Many savvy Windows users are writing instructions and software to combat this, even going so far as to completely stop updates.

    Translated from German using Google Translate!
     
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