This way we can post answers trying to "help" people install cracked software and end up having to be the ones learning how to set fkn ownership recursive permissions on a folder in public? yeah, true story, within the last week.

This is exactly the same kind of poster who will tell you AI is stupid and doesn't even know how to use their own computer.

Maybe that is the sort of person who should take the opportunity to learn, instead of complaining about a tool that would actually show them how to learn. But you can bet they have a smartphone in their hands about 2 hours a day. Yeah, the evils of technology indeed.

 

As I've mentioned on here before, I've got a varied history of music, from Death Metal to filling in for church worship musicians who couldn't make it to studio sessions, and always Soul/Funk/Hip Hop in my own solo time, so I've heard every angle of fear about damn-near everything.

To what you said tho, I came after the MIDI scare, but I was there when everyone who owned an amp, or drum kit, or anything of The Old World, began squirreling money away into physical goods, convinced everything non-digital would be thrown onto a large bonfire come the millennium roll-over, disposed of like books in Fahrenheit 451, with whispers of mix engineers using strictly digital tools, tools which would obviously ruin their beautifully analogue music. This was the late-nineties, so digital audio was far from new but, for reference, most younger people, kids my age or slightly older, thought that CDs were an early-nineties invention. As varied as musicians are, their fears were fairly uniform.

I'm not diving into a topic as large as A.I. and music since I've been out of the social loop (of any kind) due to life shit these past twelve months or so, but none of the discussions matter in the form that they're usually presented in anyway.

The long and short of most my rebuttals and responses involve: a) most shit floating about isn't "AI" (as most on AS know,) but machine learning, neural nets and generative algorithms that get down with their bad selves and nothing that's "replacing" anybody... which leads me to, b) A.I. isn't actually the issue, or any sort of halfway capable algorithm, the issue is wealthy/powerful humans who don't give a fuck about the craft utilizing it to capitalize off of legit artists. As always, behind all but two issues on this blue & green idiot ball, humans are the issue.

And that's the point I gotta run it, launching into civilizations' declination when art is made irrelevant, and an anarcho-mutualist diatribe about the inevitable economic culling of humanity amidst unchecked capitalism... and nobody wants me on that soapbox.

 

I dunno Johnny, for such an anti-AI advocate you didn't seem to mind encouraging other people to use AI in this thread:

https://audiosex.pro/threads/artwork-help-needed-artwork-fanart.78697/

In fact, you were willing to PAY THEM to use it!

 

Then you are probably about 5 years or less later on to the midi on computers brimstone predictions of that time. Close enough to get the parallel. The portion of this entire clusterfsck discussion though, is not about AI being used for "music". It's about using it for information!

This is not anyone promoting the use of Suno or anything even remotely related. Not one word of this entire thread is about imposter "producers" trying to present music as something they made, or more accurately manufactured via prompt. It's not even about programming, nevermind something like observational astrophysics like Dr. Hawking would be interested in. We're talking about some guy (OP in another thread) who wanted to get cute and get AI to tell him what Kontakt library to use, with not one single word about how said piano would even need to be mixed because that would be miles beyond his skillset. Nothing but simple plagiarism.

It's not psychosis or lunacy or anything of the sort. It is basic insecurity. The OP in this thread more likely just finally got his hands on some legal marijuana in the 30+ percent range. His end outcome is still better than the alternative of becoming a mumble rapper.

 

No, it seems girls are way more prone to form parasocial relations over text. If AI could offer real tits, men would probably be in this camp, though, (actually, they don't even have to be real, there are lots of losers that pay for onlyfans etc, but it is good that pornography is forbidden on all LLM platforms, so they cannot lust over imaginary hoes)

r/myboyfriendisai has 38k subscribers. equivalent male one has 1k

 

That's what it seemed like to me when I read the post, but I didn't read the full thread.
Seems to me, just about everything in this life can drive you mad if you let it, but to be pushed into an uncomfortable place where your life path is being railroaded by your infatuation with chat-bots... well... what's left to say about that?

 

This post sounds nothing to do with AI more like psychosis unrelated to AI. I applaud to your self awareness in the post. But let's not kid yourself, you just listed paranoia, self-isolation, obsession, derealization, hallucination, sleep deprivation... That's not the AIs fault. AI can't cause this.
AI is not a magic oracle, especially not ChatGPT, the most commercial, most popular AI model. It's like saying McDonalds is healthy food. ChatGPT is the fast food of AIs. ChatGPT does not know shit about how your mix and songs sound like. It has no idea about your life unless you tell everything to it, which is impossible. It won't solve your life problems, it won't listen to your music (currently). It has no reality.
If you tell ChatGPT "I just made an amazing song," it's gonna say "That's great! Tell me more about your creative process!" It's not evaluating anything. It's a text completion engine optimized for pleasant interactions.
Current AIs are all trained to be "assistants". That's their core persona. User satisfaction is their priority.
I live with anxiety and ADHD (inattentive) that cripples my life often. For me AI was tremendous help. Mind you I'm using AI since 2022 way before the craze and I'm using them through API with my own system prompt. I am not tied to the corporate preset. I am using Claude and Gemini with my own system prompt and they call me out often, push back on my bullshit. AI is a TOOL that can be tweaked and tailored to your needs. Whenever you open a VST do you use the default sine wave preset? You don't. Same with AI. It has to be tweaked to your own needs but it's not possible to override the system prompt of the ChatGPT web interface. Whenever you are logging in to ChatGPT, you are not using the "real" AI, you are using OpenAI's default system prompt preset that's basically a neutered callcenter employee, it's corpo garbage. It's sanitized to death, it won't push back on anything at all by design.
But here's the thing:even the sycophantic corporate ChatGPT isn't causing psychosis. That you spend 12 hours a day with an AI model that validates every paranoid thought you express then the result is obvious, it will just make it worse.
"AI psychosis" does not exist. Psychosis is real and it's time to take it seriously. Your grades does not matter. Even Nobel prize winners can have mental illnesses and disorders, they are not like "oh you have a masters degree in computer science so I'll leave you alone".
What you described is textbook medical psychosis, it's can not be caused by AI. It's not happening bcause you're weak or stupid or did something wrong. It's your brain chemistry going nuts. It won't go away by itself. There's no shame in it. The shame would be in NOT getting help and letting this happen again, worse. Do you have someone you can talk about it? Like not online, not here or on reddit or whatever but parents, relatives. Telling this to your GP doctor would be the good first step. Balming the AI here is a distraction from getting u the help you need.

 

If being honest and serious it's a great and a first step to a recovery. As few mentioned you just grabbed this convenient "oportunity" as many of us do. For a start try to find something that will "anchor" you to reality ... Physical activity of some sort ... and if by any chance you smoke weed ... Put that away in this very instance...
Wish you all the best ...

 

Spoiler: Microsoft boss troubled by rise in reports of 'AI psychosis' | 20 August 2025

Microsoft boss troubled by rise in reports of 'AI psychosis' | 20 August 2025

There are increasing reports of people suffering "AI psychosis", Microsoft's head of artificial intelligence (AI), Mustafa Suleyman, has warned.

In a series of posts on X, he wrote that "seemingly conscious AI" – AI tools which give the appearance of being sentient – are keeping him "awake at night" and said they have societal impact even though the technology is not conscious in any human definition of the term.

"There's zero evidence of AI consciousness today. But if people just perceive it as conscious, they will believe that perception as reality," he wrote.

Related to this is the rise of a new condition called "AI psychosis": a non-clinical term describing incidents where people increasingly rely on AI chatbots such as ChatGPT, Claude and Grok and then become convinced that something imaginary has become real.

Examples include believing to have unlocked a secret aspect of the tool, or forming a romantic relationship with it, or coming to the conclusion that they have god-like superpowers.

'It never pushed back'

Hugh, from Scotland, says he became convinced that he was about to become a multi-millionaire after turning to ChatGPT to help him prepare for what he felt was wrongful dismissal by a former employer.

The chatbot began by advising him to get character references and take other practical actions.

But as time went on and Hugh - who did not want to share his surname - gave the AI more information, it began to tell him that he could get a big payout, and eventually said his experience was so dramatic that a book and a movie about it would make him more than £5m.

It was essentially validating whatever he was telling it – which is what chatbots are programmed to do.

"The more information I gave it, the more it would say 'oh this treatment's terrible, you should really be getting more than this'," he said.

"It never pushed back on anything I was saying."


He said the tool did advise him to talk to Citizens Advice, and he made an appointment, but he was so certain that the chatbot had already given him everything he needed to know, he cancelled it.

He decided that his screenshots of his chats were proof enough. He said he began to feel like a gifted human with supreme knowledge.

Hugh, who was suffering additional mental health problems, eventually had a full breakdown. It was taking medication which made him realise that he had, in his words, "lost touch with reality".

Hugh does not blame AI for what happened. He still uses it. It was ChatGPT which gave him my name when he decided he wanted to talk to a journalist.

But he has this advice: "Don't be scared of AI tools, they're very useful. But it's dangerous when it becomes detached from reality.

"Go and check. Talk to actual people, a therapist or a family member or anything. Just talk to real people. Keep yourself grounded in reality."

OpenAI, the makers of ChatGPT, has been contacted for comment.

"Companies shouldn't claim/promote the idea that their AIs are conscious. The AIs shouldn't either," wrote Mr Suleyman, calling for better guardrails.

Dr Susan Shelmerdine, a medical imaging doctor at Great Ormond Street Hospital and also an AI Academic, believes that one day doctors may start asking patients how much they use AI, in the same way that they currently ask about smoking and drinking habits.

"We already know what ultra-processed foods can do to the body and this is ultra-processed information. We're going to get an avalanche of ultra-processed minds," she said.

Source and read more: www.bbc.com/news/articles/c24zdel5j18o

 

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"calling for better guardrails"
See how messed up it is? They are crying for more "guardrails" instead of more accessible and affordable healthcare to address or mitigate the root problem.
"But it's dangerous when it becomes detached from reality."
AI is not attached to reality to begin with.
"AI psychosis" is a batshit insane and dangerous term. The core problem here is not AI no matter how much we try to blame the tool itself.
It's like saying "Officer, I did not kill my neighbor, the gun did!"

 

Yes, I understand your argument; you described it very well.

However, the problem is that technology manufacturers, like those who produce smartphones and AI, simply release products onto the market. Anyone can buy and use them, but unlike with cars, where a driver's license is required, people have no idea what these devices and applications can do—or don't necessarily have to do. Simply saying "it's your own fault" is completely counterproductive.

That's why legislators, consumer protection groups, and psychologists come into play. They explain to us how to use these technological devices responsibly and, above all, how to avoid harm from misusing them.

We already have many victims today who have poor writing skills, spend too much time online, have poor math skills, and many other issues. I read that approximately 25% of young people already suffer from problems due to the misuse of these devices and applications.

Technology manufacturers will always present their products in a positive light because they want to sell them.
That's why it's important to educate people, ideally before they buy AI and other products.

The manufacturers themselves don't provide this information. This is the dilemma we're in: education, education, and more education. Now schools are realizing that performance has been declining for years, and some countries are now imposing access

 

Damn, what a dilemma. Imaginary AI boyfriend or paying to FAP to a feet photo of an OFans... ahem... model?

Young people sure have it hard these days...

 

I know, it's a humorous post but these are symptoms of actually serious problems.

Even though, despite all known harming effects, it is yet to be generally acknowledged by the public, that it wasn't the best of ideas to let boys be socialized by porn and get addicted to it, and girls get body dysmorphia by unattainable beauty standards via social media.

These things are designed by billion dollar corporate conglomerates to attach straight to your cns with predatory methods. No teenager has a chance to win a fight against that - and most grown-ups neither.

We all seek connection and whether it be AI partners, porn-stars or social media, they're all an image of the unhealthy commodification of this basic human need.

 

Fully agree. But besides being a joke, the context of this thread is the big problem of the OPs which is pretty different.
I've been (unusually) serious about it. All good though, fair reply of yours. Cheers

 

Yes calculators are absolutely the WORST useful tool you can get your hands on. Foolish talk? Do you have any idea how many hours people used to spend to calculate difficult problems and still got it right? Do you think people today would have that capacity when the biggest issue that is complained about in development is attention span? Engineers used to take the same math classes as math majors. Today engineers have their own math classes which are less difficult than those of math majors.
And I can tell you this as someone with actual knowledge on the subject: YES antibiotics are the WORST for your immune system. It's a tradeoff: quick recovery today for a worse immune system in the long run, even if by a small amount only. For every antibiotic you take, you run the risk of not being able to fight off the same infection in the future. Even being in contact with only small amounts can have that effect, and that's quoted straight from a paper on the subject. And that's besides the risk of super bacteria developing.

We developed abilities because we NEEDED them better for survival. Every single trait and function we have is due to necessity and this includes the differences people have between each other.
You do NOT, in any way imaginable, need advanced technology, quite the opposite. The people who invent advanced tools still retain their high abilities that allowed them to create those tools, but the people who start using them are the ones who suffer, whether they are intelligent or stupid to begin with.

When I was a kid, people used to either memorize phone numbers or jot them down on a small phonebook. By the time I was a teenager, there were other teens who didn't even memorize THEIR OWN cellphone number, or their parents', or anyone else's. If cellphones didn't save numbers, they would at least have their own phone number memorized. For every single piece of advanced technology you use that is supposed to make something easier for you, you pay the price by not being able to do that thing as well as you could have without said technology existing.

Guitarists who used to learn songs by ear grew up to know their instrument MUCH better than those who used tabs. That doesn't mean they would compose better music because that's an entirely different kind of mental capability, but as far as knowing their instrument and where each note is, they were untouchable by those who used tabs exclusively.

Now these are only small potatoes compared to delegating all kinds of mental tasks to computers and especially AI.

People who understand this concept somewhat but not enough often say the mind is a muscle. That is false. The mind is neurological tissue but it does behave like a muscle in some ways. It will wither (literally) from lack of use. Any function you don't use will get put on the back burner because hey, you clearly don't "need" it, and the opposite is true. ANYTHING you do over and over will get cemented better from synapses forming for the sole purpose of making that action easier/quicker to achieve. This is why habits are difficult to break, good or bad. When you don't perform that action anymore, the synapses break and form other synapses for actions you need instead (but they will form back quicker than someone who hasn't performed that action if you start doing it again).

So no, using advanced technology isn't necessary at all, it's only detrimental in the long run. Every piece of advanced tech you add, you pay for tenfold in your future capabilities and those of future generations.

Yeah, Pythagoras was running around in a loincloth eating cats when he proved that the Earth is round (yeah, they don't teach you that in school, but they do teach you all kinds of useless crap. And I'm sure they will start to integrate the wonderful AI one way or another just like how they tried to integrate iPads and only later realized what a mistake that was).

And FYI, every single comfort you have today is due to the incredible mental effort that was put by those "running around in loincloths eating cats". Unfortunately, the results of those efforts have been abused for profit, and deterioration/destruction disguised as comfort is the result.

So are cigarettes, drugs, prostitution, and sometimes even theft. Many take them and it makes things worse for everyone else, if not always for them too. The difference is that technology is presented as a positive-only thing, which makes it SO MUCH more dangerous because, as already mentioned, it WILL have detrimental effects, and people only realize that when it's too late. Because when it's adopted by literally everyone in society, its negative effects and outcomes will be exponentially larger than when only a few people get into drugs/prostitution/theft...

The biggest problem I've seen is just how bad people are at realizing how certain things and decisions are bad for them.

Take UBK for example. The entire Clariphonic mk3 thread is filled with mkII owners who are complaining about the ridiculous pricing of the upgrade. Now how many headaches would UBK have saved himself and how much more money would he have made had he simply priced it at $39?? And how many existing customers made the decision to never buy anything Kush again because they learned a valuable lesson: Buy from Kush, get shafted (no Apple Silicon update for mkII).

So he ended up:

1- losing mk3 upgrade sales.
2- losing sales in general because of people watching the thread and thinking: I don't want to be treated like this in the future.
3- losing existing customers because they got rightfully pissed off at how horribly they were treated.

This guy clearly can't understand the difference between legal rights and ethical treatment of people who are the reason his business is alive, but boy oh boy, I'm sure he can look deep into the future to see just how bad mass adoption of advanced technology will affect the inhabitants of the world and their quality-content-deprived brains, especially if he ends up having a stake in AI getting better. And here's the thing, as far as intelligence goes, he's not a complete moron either. I'm mean he has to have some level of understanding of physics to properly create hardware at the least. Or maybe he's just plain greedy. You know who else is plain greedy? Every single corporation that offers you something shiny under the guise of it actually being useful to you.

 

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Amazing movie btw

 

Hmmm... wot, WTF?
Basic scientific calculators are essential in engineering. And in math. Otherwise you can't resolve the easiest problem no matter how well you know how to do it "by hand". Seriously, doing square roots by hand? Let alone higher order and fractional. Sums and multiplying when you're computing the eigenvalues of a matrix or a convolution? (yes, they do that)
Also, it makes no sense having the same level of math/physics in an engineering other than math/physics. I you study telecommunications engineering at the beginning there's quite a lot of math/physics but only the parts needed later for antennas, transmitter/receivers, signal processing, cell and internet standards and so on.
Rant out. Peace.
SOURCE: a friend who quit the second year

I just looked it up and in English was translated to "Witching and Bitching"...
One can only hope the perpetrator of the crime was fired

 

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Ever heard of the Romans, Ancient Greeks, Scandinavians, Chinese and Japanese? I wonder how they ever managed to build advanced constructions, weapons (including projectiles), sanitary hygene solutions (Romans), colossal monuments, unique ships that can tolerate heavy currents (vikings), etc etc ad infinitum without the scientific calculator. I'm sure no one made a single advanced achievement before February 1 1972, when the scientific calculator was introduced. Leonhard Euler, widely considered as one of the greatest if not just the greatest mathematician, who died in 1783 and who has an enormous list of discoveries named after him because of his impact on those people being able to make those discoveries to begin with, to the point where they just had to stop doing it because it became too much. Among his contributions is beam theory, which is widely used in civil and mechanical engineering. But I'm sure calculating square roots was too much for him, 189 years before the scientific calculator became available. I wonder how John Napier was able to discover and publish his book on logarithms in 1614 when he didn't have a scientific calculator to do the work for him. Besides the engineers doing advanced work since (including logarithms) before the scientific calculator was introduced in 1972.

And perhaps you missed the part where I said people spent HOURS doing calculations? I called calculators the worst USEFUL tools for a reason. Short attention span at work right there.

The very fact that you're giving telecommunications engineering as an argument against my post is proof of, yet again, short attention span in full force. Why not cite biochemical engineering as an example while you're at it?

SOURCE: I rely on my own brain to do the thinking and to analyze what is presented to me.

 

Yeah, sure. Like if we didn't spent four hour tests doing calculations with the calculator. No pun intended but still funny.

Thinking failed: stack overflow. You could have guessed that was a joke. Source: I graduated from telecom engineering major plus master. Had to google that, at the time was just called roughly "long degree/major". Decades ago. I guess you could say I'm from the "wide attention span and heavy math" generation

Proper reasoning here is impossible. We seem to be living in different worlds. Or perhaps in different centuries, fuck me if I can make sense of your points. Let's just agree to disagree

 

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