AI Psychosis Warning in MUSIC

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  1. PulseWave

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    Hi @Dorzan, you've already taken the first step toward your own healing.
    You've talked about your problem and your experiences with AI.
    Insight is the first step to improvement. Without insight, there is no healing.

    Modern medicine today uses a questionnaire to diagnose schizophrenia. You will find out on Tuesday which mental illness you have. With the diagnosis, that is, the determination of your specific condition, you will then receive further treatment.

    Humanity has a long history; we lived for a long time without electricity and computers. AI is very new, and we all managed perfectly well without it before. So, you don't really need it; you're not missing out on anything if you don't use it.
     
  2. JHG

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    why does the OP sound AI generated?
     
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    What an irony that our AI addicted patients give advice on how to treat others using AI.

    however, it was expected
     
  4. clone

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    Imagine what would happen if you worked at the Post Office for a couple of years.

    You might end up "going instrumental".
     
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  5. slowpoke

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    If I want the truth I look to South Park. This episode brilliantly exposes peoples dependence on AI -
    Sora Not Sorry
    Season 28, Episode 3
     
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  6. JohnnyBoy023

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    We should already have data protection implemented by the government, but nope, why? They use the information as well, and the information is worth money. Its a bad loop.
     
  7. JohnnyBoy023

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    :D no ppl are to glued to the computers "ability" to solve issues that you can solve your self, using your brain....
    Using devices and computers has changed our human history for ever, and as you can see, its not going that well...
    But when in history has it "gone" well ? :)

    Guess its the individuals responsibility to avoid certain apps, AI, and other negative products, like Facebook and whatever.
    But yeah it's getting messy!
     
  8. PulseWave

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    Edward Snowden hopes that AI will one day be better than humans.

    Recently, the discussion has repeatedly drifted towards the dangers of AI. Even Elon Musk, one of the co-founders of OpenAI, warned of the risks and, together with other experts, even called for a pause in AI development.

    While Snowden didn't deny that AI technologies could benefit criminal actors, he also sees numerous positive applications for AI. For example, he believes that AI models could make government surveillance more difficult. "Maybe they could stop spying on the public and start spying for the public," Snowden said. "That would be a win."

    https://t3n.de/news/edward-snowden-ki-zukunft-software-kommunismus-1549701/

    Snowden Calls for “Software Communism”

    Snowden is aware that intelligence agencies can also use AI models to their advantage, potentially to further intrude on users' privacy. To prevent this, people must fight to ensure that open AI models remain open, Snowden told Coindesk, using the term “software communism” to describe the situation. He explicitly criticized OpenAI for this, as the parent company of ChatGPT has refused to grant public access to its trading data and models. “That’s a bad joke, right?” he asked rhetorically, accusing them of “antisocial behavior.”
     
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    Really needed to make that joke, even response is somehow best I can do to shove Able to Live somehow in sentence, didn't really hoped for response or questioned anything you said, so sorry again.

    :mates:
     
  11. Somnambulist

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    That's very interesting. At the very least, they should tell everyone how and where it gets its information from, at the very minimum, how it gets its information, even if they wish to keep some of their unique data private. I would not have used antisocial. Surreptitious or sneaky would have been better words for me. It could be read that their unwillingness to disclose could also be questioned towards their motives whether good or clandestine.
     
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    I see, so your argument is that AI should already know that 'slab' means a square shape. I imagine that most AI's would know that when someone says 'slab' in the context of a piece of stone, they generally mean square and not some other shape.
    And, sure enough, if we ask Grok to "Create a photorealistic 3D style white marble veined square slab with an alpha transparent background" we get the image i've attatched here.

    So it's simply a matter of; If the AI has the information necessary to infer that you desire a square shape when asking for a slab, then you'll get one.
     

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    yes it's a very dangerous stealthy problem,
    much more tricky than any kind of addiction (alcohol, gambling, hoarding plugins...)

    every person is vulnerable to AI psychosis and if you get too far, there's low chance for getting back on track without other people around,

    here's a short table, go figure how fucked up you already are:

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    and here's a video on topic, also mentioning fellow musician/producer that got into AI psychosis:

     
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    Remeber when you where a kid and got that 1000 piece lego or w/e and spent the whole day building, occupying the brain, learning, trial and error. You need to find that again, sure we can talk about world issues, experiences because this is our place "forum" for expressing tought's and idea's. But don't fill your head with nonsense, find something that makes you feel good and learn something or read books everyday it's different for every individual, the world has gone mad since way back, nothing new, so to even let that knowledge and pain into your state of mind is useless and is going to make you unhappy, and we all are unhappy for the most time. Cus of todays issues.

    Thats why i'm trying to tell you to find something relevant, and building a 1000 piece lego IS relevant and healthy.
    Talking about a square that isn't a square because bla bla i mean, what purpose does these conversations serve? Nothing, its a waste of brain space.

    Obviously you haven't found your thing yet, or most of us. But be creative, try different things, paint, make music, knit, whatever....

    I read this crap and i just think its like meaningless. Unless it actually has a purpose and an ending to a conversation, but this rambling is in your head, and i cant understand it, i mean no offense. But find your child mentality and if you dont know what to do go buy a puzzle or lego, or write a journal, use your brain in a meaningful way, try to get better at something and you will feel better...
     
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  15. Audioguydaz

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    Like most things in this life, it's about finding balance. AI is a tool, and like with any tool you use it to make your life better or easier in some way. If it's not doing that for you then it's the wrong tool. So you might, as you suggest, go build some lego or go for a walk. But that might not be helping you to vibe code the plugin you are trying to make, eh? - Or it might help! Who knows, ymmv. But balance is the key.
     
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    not gonna lie, I'm thinking about revisiting my old LEGO again, because doing things is infinitely more fun than consuming online content
     
  17. wizardmoon2

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    Just because a tool exists doesn't mean you HAVE to use it. One of the most useful tools is a calculator and yet it's one of the worst tools you could use for your brain. You COULD choose to make some calculations in your head instead that are a bit more advanced than 5+8.
    Then you really don't get what he meant. And NO, balance is NOT key. Most "balances" today are arbitrary excuses invented by people who don't want to take away any hint of comfort they have in their life while that comfort more often than not is worse for them in the long run. Talking about balance while referring to AI or social media or smartphone use is the biggest sign of coping. If you can survive without it, it doesn't fit with the notion of balance, with the exception of things that positively stimulate the mind like learning something useful, or even playing an instrument (although not essential) etc. Anything else is just guilty pleasures you can allow yourself in very small amounts, but they do not fit with the notion of balance because that's the quickest way to start giving excuses why you need to use them as if they are somehow essential. They're not.
     
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  18. clone

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    One time, I was on my computer for a year and a half only to realize that in the end, I wasn't going to be able to make music either.

    But I wasn't using AI, I was downloading the BBC Symphony Orchestra Kontakt library from Nitroflare.
     
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    Reason to Live and to be Able to produce goes welltogether, so whatever the Logic is, One Studio is enough.
     
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    Wild stuff.

    I played with that thing for maybe 10 or so mins, totally lost interest. Haven't been back.
     
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