I see increasingly more people here giving advice based on AI chatbots like ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok.ai, etc?

What’s the freaking point of giving advice about something that you don’t know about yourself but asking a chatbot for the answer and posting it here as your own advice!!??

Anyone here can ask any AI chatbot for advice on their own! They don’t need you to do that for them!

What we want here is people to respond to questions using their own expertise and experience!

But what's even more disturbing? People that post honest solutions based on their own experience that make sense and don’t use AI are now accused of using AI but not mentioning it, because their advice matches what AI suggests? Or even worse? They’re being accused of being an AI bot!

It seems we’ve really come to the point where everyone is so into AI that no one can imagine that any human could have an answer to any question without using some sort of AI?

Seeing all this? I truly believe that AI can potentially end civilization as we know it!

Because, if our reference to what is ‘truth’ is taken away, it’s impossible for us to determine what’s real or fake? And from that point on chaos will kick in!

 

Read a good article earlier today about AI, "The Time Has Come to Declare War On AI".
Based on your comment I think you'd like it. Here's the link to it -->
https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/time-to-declare-war-ai-21221535.php

 

A lot of the time, I will ask language based models information about things I'm well versed in, just to see how well it answers my question. Sometimes, it spews absolute crap. Other times, I learn something new about a subject I thought I knew back to front.

What am I saying? I dont think throwing out the baby with the bath water is a good idea

 

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I've always thought the same, replying to a thread asking about something you don't know about is completely optional. Don't have anything useful to share? Move on.

Unfortunately, this type of behavior is getting more and more common over here lately. Best we can get are AI answers having to be spoiled to not waste screen space of the people who don't want to see it. Most of the time, the actual AI answer is pure gibberish that doesn't help in any way. I feel bad for the people who take those as actual advice to their issues.

 

No dude, whats destroying the forums are those kind of threads popping out 3 times a week saying the exact same thing.

For the sake of your complaint, we have strict rules on the forum for AI generated responses. But we still don't have rules for people crying about AI and creating zillions of threads about 'how bad it is'.

 

Honestly, if someone says something like, "My opinion is...and according to the A.I, it suggests that..."
To me that is a decent perspective because people are still indicating that they are making up their own minds on subjects they find interesting, regardless of how much they may or may not know.
If a person only posts A.I all of the time or a page of 20+ paragraphs, I have to admit it can be tedious and if my time is limited, I may even bypass it altogether, or at best, come back and read it when I have more time if it is interesting enough to me.

 

If Ai is killing the forum, it's because it's allowed. Admins can make a rule that no Ai posts allowed and that's it. Ai is not killing the forum, the lack of control is. Admins, just ban Ai posts. Done.

 

The thing is, it can really help...BUT

If someone just copies the first response chatGPT gave i consider that almost as a pure spam, in probably a year or two it might be a lot better, but right now, the only safe way to use it is by feeding it the "topic data".

For exsample, if the question is about audio interfaces, finding the best review and a deeper forum topic can be helpful, so one can feed it to the chatGPT and be a concrete with it because it forces AI to be positioned in between the data and the question, now that there is something to bounce from.... otherwise it just counts you as a average person asking a question and not particular about the topic or the skill.

I´ve used it for months several hours per day, and it led me to the rabbit holes multiple times, my advice would be "feed" it, dont let it give you opinion as it gives pretty bad opinions in certain topics, feeding it data(2-3 minutes of work), the convo begins to be more serious.

 

What they cannot stop is guys like the OP using it to answer questions just repackaging its answers. "Oh I just guessed".

In a "that sound thread" he busted out the exact same wrong answer about a piano patch as GPT did, playing it off as a "guess". Now he wants to complain about AI because it was clear he was plagiarizing an identical incorrect answer from it.

You cannot make this stuff up.

 

Copy / Paste was ALREADY a nightmare.
It was already done by support forums and a lot more.
No brain use, just ctrl+C ctrl+V of the same bland generic "answer".

How many time i seen crappy answers from AI and searched the same on a "regular" search engine, just to find some obscure forum posts taken as "the answer", exactly the same crappy response from forum posts ?
Because NO HUMAN on the forum said : "this is CRAP, here is the real human solution to the problem".

I use AI as "synthesis" engine (because it is only that : compiling human production on the internet).
BUT if we are stupid enough to produce nothing anymore ... it is already dead for sure.

Copy pasting AI crap is not going to help on anything.

It is ALREADY the case on this forum : check the "selected answer" and see if it is a copy / pasted AI crap ... i already done my own stats.
It is NEVER for now, only human made posts.

Now, i will just BLOCK users doing that and go on.

 

If you already know the answer to a question, why shouldn't it be used as confirmation? It's the exact same thing as citing Wiki or some Google result. It's amusing you mention audio interfaces; when someone tries to provide an incorrect "human" answer about the audio interface sitting right in front of you which you use every day and maybe 5 other people on here actually own.

 

Not only complain but make the very same complain public as well. That's why these threads sound so silly to me.

It's really funny people using AI as an argument from authority (as you mentioned: just like Wikipedia) but that phenomenon it's not something new. But what in fact is new is the amount of threads trying or complaining about others (bad) behaviour just to prove you're not 'like the other folks'.

 

May be because we want things to IMPROVE ?
And not being driven by the usual golems and bots to the final wall ? (because yes, there is a wall upfront)

It is not a complaint by itself : it is a will to change things.
Like forbidden AI copy / paste "answers".

But if you want this forum to become another "TikTok crap" full of human bots and empty "fast brain food" AI ... let it be.
I don't personally care that much.

Don't ask, don't explain : all down to the toilet drain !

 

Convenient information at the touch of a button. Started with search engines, now we're here.

At least before you had to do SOME research... just because you found some information on Google didnt mean it was correct. AI atm is not too far off from this but the margin for error is getting smaller as these AI models get smarter.

One of my pet peeves is someone pulling out their phone during a discussion to search Google for validation. All that says is you're no smarter than the person you're arguing with. Google won the argument, not you. AI is just an updated version of this. In the future no one will have a genuine opinion unless AI gives it to them.

If you don't know something, make the effort to learn about it. And for the love of god make mistakes. That's how you learn.

 

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Well, if you just want to google it that is fine too, but if you are going deep into subject with AI mf will interpolate answers based on your replies, if you feed it data than everything it already "knew" becomes more precise and it wont get loose and be happy it solved your question so quickly...

Types that always give you what you wanna hear are psychopaths, and it acts very similary(i wonder why), but i guess the problem is i gave an exsample of audio interfaces but in actuallity all these problems manifested when trying to code dsp, setting up linux amd drivers and repairing various types of pcb's...
I dont use it as much nowdays nor i take it for granted, but i dont find it good enough just to c/p an answer as a solution on forums.

 

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This is audio and computers we are talking about on this forum. It is not rocket science. There are concrete answers to most things which do not delve into the world of opinion. The problem with thinking that "human" responses to such "complex" questions like linux installation, or trying your hand at programming are the fact you think you are getting anything other than a copy and paste job either way. You are just getting "human typed" answers, but they are actually not different information. People seem to think AI is just making stuff up; but really it has just read all the prior posts, articles, and sources that other people go read and try to regurgitate as answers which they present as their own.

Look on the forums right now, and count the number of Falcon 2026 "problem" and VSL related threads right now. On many forums, the answer to these things would be "use the search function". The answer to many of the questions is the exact same RTFM as it was on alt.binaries.sounds.utilities 20+ years ago. The technology has changed, but people who do not know what they are doing is forever.

People do not like AI answers because mostly they just get to see in clear text they could have easily figured out their issue in seconds had they bothered to try, or knew what they were doing in the first place. It's just not wishy-washy kid gloves enough for them.

 

Yes, it doesn't do wonders for expounding the investigative abilities, trust in human knowledge or willingness to critically think, by the human race.

 

It's really no worse than someone pretending to be something they are not (youtube influencers/producers etc) doing tutorial videos. The whole spiral is a mire of shite. But free advice is worth every penny you pay for it.

 

Grok is wrong quite a lot. How do I know? I often ask it things that I know are true!