He also doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut and not alienate his customers - and yeah, I bought BBCSO before I knew he was a massive bellend (as another commenter put it).

As for Gongage, maybe Orchestral Tools?

 

Well, to be honest, TECHNICALLY I didn't. Because R2R has not released it (yet).

It was just a lucky coincedence, that it showed up on the sister site.

Maybe it really is VSL, or something else, we'll see.

I have faith in R2R.

 

I do believe they still have the side dishes like the Albion lineups, more Abbey Road pieces or Hans Zimmer stuff so they won't run out of contemporary customers who buys libraries for the brand and comparison any time soon.

...but come to think of it, if Spitfire's proprietary Player is cracked with the advent of BBC SO Pro now, the others (Abbey, ZImmers) will also come along soon enough, which would eventually hit their sales

 

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Don't know this person. I was talking about Giancarlo, which is a person i know well for the amount of BS on his way of making business. Still, i love Nebula and some Acustica plugins.

 

Oh, I'm sure they will come up with something. Different orchestra, rooms, mics, Luigi sitting second chair oboe instead of third expansion, etc.

 

They choose to do this mostly because LABS was slowly getting deprecated (and now Spitfire was recently owned by Splice with their own new Player plugin "Splice INSTRUMENTS" as well) so they're moving on to use the LABS plugin template to form their own orchestral libraries line-up to gradually move away from their dependency of Kontakt

 

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Actually as reality would have it this one that showed up on the doorstep is not so complete. Lot's of file corruption and non-unravelling zip files etc... Apparently some that were actually lucky enough to crunch thru the errors on a full set of archives are reporting a bunch of instrument files that are corrupted/missing.

IMO, the Spitfire Symphony Orchestra that was recorded @ AIR studios is half the size and sounds as good or not better. As well as the Studio pro series.

 

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It's weird sometimes with some companies, though. Remember R2R's Autotune Slice NFO? R2R tells us we need to keep the final WIBU versions because they're more solid.

"You should keep those final version of R2R/Antares releases. Even if we release new iLok protected versions, these have much more bloat than you think (bad effect of Meta Fortress anti tampering). Antares "Make the plugin slow again!"

Legit WIBU AutoTune 11 : 44MB
R2R WIBU AutoTune 11 : 41MB
Legit iLok AutoTune 11 : 167MB
R2R iLok AutoTune 11 : 159MB"

As you can see, R2R has already cracked everything, as always, but R2R never released Auto-Tune Pro 11 WIBU. Like with Pro Tools 2021, Auto-Tune Pro 11 WIBU/R2R magically disappeared

 

AT11 Pro may have disappeared from sister site, but it's still out there.

 

Auto-Tune Pro 11 from R2R has never been released

 

Yes, never released. R2R only released version 9, many years ago, in 2019. In fact, in that NFO, R2R implied that they would release the final Auto-Tune 11 Wibu, but then they never did. They argued that even if they released new iLok-protected version, users should opt for the Wibu/R2R version because it's more stable. Too bad they never released the Wibu/R2R version haha. They kept it internal. Like with Pro Tools in 2021 and the big AAA iLok softwares. Maybe we will be luckier in the future.

 

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VR 11 Pro is only 88mb. Other site shows 1000+ downloads and 0 complaints. Available Mac version also works perfectly.

 

Not relevant to my point.

 

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Like I already told you, guys - the Gong has been cancelled.

 

No way!

 

Always belive that something wonderful is about to happen

 

blackfriday it hasn't arrived yet, it's too early to draw conclusions

 

My gong has rung, VCV has premium modules on sale till December 1st, it struck my wallet but who knows if it’s possible for me to supply these to the museum here