Yea that is true about Unix based servers. I gave up the windows servers at home just using nas's now. They work better no/ fewer reboots

 

There’s nothing wrong or surprising when people are passionate about something they like, but your excessive energy to ruin someone’s effort or enthusiasm and desire to belittle it, raise a good question you should ask yourself: It’s just an OS -a quite innocent and neutral thing so why do you see it as a threat to you or anyone else?

 

Bro, give me some of your patience.
AND NOW!!

 

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This guy is way too cognitively challenged to figure out that by spending so much time and energy to ridicule how other people spend their time and energy, the joke is actually on him.

 

Asahi-- yes, that's it. I keep forgetting the name. (Is/Was that not also the name of a stereo manufacturer?) I followed its dev because we also have an M1 MacBook (Air). But I'm wary of dual boots (and the drive is only 250GB), so thought to wait-- and let the laptop get old and silicon Linux more sophisticated-- until installing Linux as one OS on the whole drive.

But do you run your audio/music in Asahi on your Mac? If so, what do, and can, you run? What would you recommend?

Incidentally, are we to assume that if one Linux distro can run on Apple silicon, then it's just a matter of time before other distros can too, seeing as it's more or less all the same-- Linux is Linux-- and open source?

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Revolution OS (documentary about GNU/Linux) (Multilingual) (HQ)

While Microsoft may be the biggest software company in the world, not every computer user is a fan of their products, or their way of doing business. While Microsoft's Windows became the most widely used operating system for personal computers in the world, many experts took issue with Microsoft's strict policies regarding licensing, ownership, distribution, and alteration of their software.

The objections of many high-profile technology experts, most notably Richard Stallman, led to what has become known as "the Open Source Movement," which is centered on the belief that computer software should be free both in the economic and intellectual senses of the word. Eventually, one of Stallman's admirers, Linus Torvalds, created a new operating system called Linux, a freely distributed software which many programmers consider to be markedly superior to Windows.

Revolution OS is a documentary that examines the genesis of the Open Source Movement, and explores and explains the technical and intellectual issues involved in a manner understandable to computer aficionados and non-techheads alike.

www.imdb.com/de/title/tt0308808

 

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Yep.. But you cant run a domain with NAS's... Hence the PDC at least.. I dont have that much stuff on the LAN to really justify a NAS in that capacity yet...

 

Samba works fine. I don't need much more than that for a couple of PC's. I am not doing Group policies like I did years ago with hundreds of PC and Citrix stuff.. Samba is perfect for a home network. I trust my NAS's

 

I am constantly using putting my backend LAN to the test and a "workgroup" model just wouldn't cut it. The domain model is very robust and makes life with a well used GIGAbit backend LAN much more tolerable. For me at least.

 

I used too also 45 years ago. past that stage in my life. I was also building and test stuff so I could be very component at my IT job.
Again each to his own. I do understand where you are coming from. It is always good to test stuff on a test network before implementing it to a live network, because as we know things can back fire fast and F things up and going back is a real PIA. I have been down that road before and thank GOD it was a test network it messed up and not the live one!

 

AFAIK, it is not possible to install Linux on the whole drive (for reasons related to the Mac architecture), but you should be able to shrink the MacOS to free up enough space on the drive. Linux doesn't require that much space anyway. 100 GB should be enough for the basics. 150 GB is plenty. FWIW, I've had no problems with dual boot.

Yes, I make music and listen to music in Asahi Linux.

I'm not sure I can recommend anything particular, just like I never recommend Linux to anyone. I simply get fed up periodically with malevolent posts claiming that it's total garbage and that music production on Linux is a no go.

That said, I'm aware of the following software that is available as binaries or can be built for the aarch64 architecture on Apple silicon Macs.

DAWS:
Reaper (binaries)
Tracktion Waveform/Waveform Free (binaries)
Ardour (installable through Fedora software center)
n-Track Studio (new, commercial, haven't tried it, installable through Fedora software center)

VST Instruments:
Modartt Pianoteq (the only commercial plugin on this list, binaries, incidentally even the latest version 9 works just fine on Asahi Linux)
The Usual Suspects: NodalRed2x, Vavra, Xenia, Osirus, OsTIrus (binaries)
Matt Tytel/DISTRHO Vitalium (early fork of Vital, both binaries and GitHub)
The Wave Warden Odin 2 (Fedora software center)
Surge XT (Fedora software center)
Digital Suburban Dexed (Fedora software center)
VASTvaporizer2 (GitHub)
LSP Multi-Sampler (Linux Studio Plugins bundle, binaries)
SFZ Tools sfizz (.sfz file player, Fedora software center)
Yoshimi (a fork of ZynAddSubFX, Fedora software center)
DISTRHO Cardinal Synth (a fork of VCV Rack, Fedora software center)
Arthur Benilov Aeolus (GitHub)
Midilab JC303 (Fedora software center)
Izmar VMPC2000XL (GitHub)
JSFX synths (over a dozen, downloadable via ReaPack)
There are others, like OB-Xd, Tunefish4, NoizeMaker, Helm, etc. which work well, but the GUI is too small.

VST FX:
LSP (Linux Studio Plugins bundle, binaries)
Airwindows (binaries, GitHub)
ZL Equalizer (GitHub, haven't been able to build the ZL Compressor)
CHOW DSP (several plugins, I only use the ChowTapeModel, Fedora software center)
zam-plugins (bundle, GitHub)
JSFX (quite a few solid vintage outboard emulations by Tukan and others, downloadable via ReaPack)
There may be others, haven't researched as thorough as the instruments, I prefer stock plugins wherever possible.

As far as recommendations, my main DAW is Reaper and it works and looks as well as on other platforms, save for the OS-dictated slight differences in the graphics (fonts, tooltips, etc.).

Ardour would be my natural choice, it feels more like home to me, but its MIDI functionality is not good. It's also not nearly as DSP-efficient as Reaper, but then, nothing is.

I also sometimes use Waveform Free and it works well, but there are some annoying GUI quirks like scaling of stock plugins and the size of tooltips.

I haven't tried other flavours of Asahi because a live USB boot is difficult to impossible. I'd be interested in the Ubuntu Asahi for sure, but objectively it's a miracle that this one exists at all.

 

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Wow, you got Pianoteq v9 running? Great job! Okay, Linux on a Mac is different than Linux on a PC. But could you find out what it is that makes the GUI in v9 other (and therefore not working in Linux Bottles) than the GUI of Pianoteq v8 which does work in Linux even without Bottles?

 

You are too kind. I just manually replaced one .lv2 file with another.

I chose Asahi Linux because I couldn't find a decent and quiet laptop outside of the Apple ecosystem and MacOS failed to impress me, not because I was knowledgeable at all when it comes to anything under the hood. But I've kept the v8 .lv2 files, both Standard and Stage, so if you tell me where to look, I'll take a look.

 

Hmm, that is probably a problem: I don't have such a file .lv2. I use the portable version. Maybe that works different? Also. I just manually replaced one .lv2 file with another.
Ahhmm, since there is no Linux version on sister site, did you buy Pianoteq 8?

 

Not yet, but I intend to. So far I've only used the demo version from their website. Maybe that's the catch.

 

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It's also pretty impossible to think a cobbled together setup will ever be "more impressive" than a customized BSD unix (Darwin) built specifically for tightly controlled computer models by teams of some of the worlds best software and hardware engineers, even after admitting not knowing Jack about MacOS in the first place.

You must really think nobody here knows anything about Macs. Before tossing out weak bait like this, maybe get your story straight.

Reality:
Asahi Linux absolutely can be installed as the only OS on Apple Silicon Macs. The installer can wipe macOS entirely. The “architecture” doesn’t block that — it’s just that most people keep macOS around because Apple’s firmware updates are delivered through it. That’s a choice, not a limitation.

When Asahi first launched, full-disk installs weren’t supported (the early alpha only shrank macOS), but for quite a while now the Asahi installer does allow wiping macOS completely.

The “100 GB for basics” line still makes no sense — Asahi’s base install is ~15 GB. Anyone actually using it would know the difference between the Fedora Asahi Remix and the Arch-based Asahi mainline.

The “no problems with dual boot” line? Another fake flex. Dual-booting Asahi with macOS works only because Apple’s boot chain allows multiple OS volumes. Anyone who’s really done it mentions the Asahi boot menu, macOS recovery partition, or at least bless commands.

So, if you really did it, run this and post a full screenshot of the output:

bash -c '( echo "VERIFY: $(whoami) @ $(date -u +"%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ") epoch=$(date +%s) rand=$(od -An -N3 -tx1 /dev/urandom | tr -d " \n")"; echo "UNAME: $(uname -srmo)"; echo; echo "CPU info:"; lscpu 2>/dev/null | egrep "Architecture|Model name|Vendor ID|Hardware" || cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep "model name|Hardware" | head -6; echo; echo "Apple hardware check:"; grep -E "Apple|T2|M1|M2|M3" /sys/firmware/devicetree/base/model 2>/dev/null || echo "(no Apple strings found)"; echo; echo "PCI/SoC devices (first 20):"; command -v lspci >/dev/null 2>&1 && lspci -k | sed -n "1,20p" || echo "(no lspci output)"; echo; echo "Block devices:"; command -v lsblk >/dev/null 2>&1 && lsblk -o NAME,SIZE,MODEL | sed -n "1,10p" || echo "(no lsblk)"; echo; echo "user processes (pid etime cmd):"; ps -o pid,etime,cmd -u $(whoami) | sed -n "1,12p"; echo; echo "uptime & load:"; uptime; echo; echo "ENDVERIFY" )'


Screenshot of the shell. No excuses. Don't worry, the whole block executes in bash even if you are sitting in dash, fish, or some weird shell default. It completely removes the “but it didn’t run on my system” excuse. Good luck trying to fake it.

 

i could, but i won t

 

It will only show that no Mac hardware is in use, with no way to go find a screenshot to doctor up.

It's not impossible to do, mind you. But what kind of smart person buys a Mac to put Linux on for Audio? Someone who likes to spend extra money for nothing? That is a dumb move, perhaps only eclipsed by thinking that doing so is even a remotely good idea.

For someone "not impressed by MacOS", what I would be "not impressed by" on a Mac being used for Audio would be this list of software. Aside from the Usual Suspects emulators, this is the kind of freeware/open source pool of options which illustrate exactly why people use so many Windows plugins on Lunix. More BS story.

Spoiler

DAWS:
Reaper (binaries)
Tracktion Waveform/Waveform Free (binaries)
Ardour (installable through Fedora software center)
n-Track Studio (new, commercial, haven't tried it, installable through Fedora software center)

VST Instruments:
Modartt Pianoteq (the only commercial plugin on this list, binaries, incidentally even the latest version 9 works just fine on Asahi Linux)
The Usual Suspects: NodalRed2x, Vavra, Xenia, Osirus, OsTIrus (binaries)
Matt Tytel/DISTRHO Vitalium (early fork of Vital, both binaries and GitHub)
The Wave Warden Odin 2 (Fedora software center)
Surge XT (Fedora software center)
Digital Suburban Dexed (Fedora software center)
VASTvaporizer2 (GitHub)
LSP Multi-Sampler (Linux Studio Plugins bundle, binaries)
SFZ Tools sfizz (.sfz file player, Fedora software center)
Yoshimi (a fork of ZynAddSubFX, Fedora software center)
DISTRHO Cardinal Synth (a fork of VCV Rack, Fedora software center)
Arthur Benilov Aeolus (GitHub)
Midilab JC303 (Fedora software center)
Izmar VMPC2000XL (GitHub)
JSFX synths (over a dozen, downloadable via ReaPack)
There are others, like OB-Xd, Tunefish4, NoizeMaker, Helm, etc. which work well, but the GUI is too small.

VST FX:
LSP (Linux Studio Plugins bundle, binaries)
Airwindows (binaries, GitHub)
ZL Equalizer (GitHub, haven't been able to build the ZL Compressor)
CHOW DSP (several plugins, I only use the ChowTapeModel, Fedora software center)
zam-plugins (bundle, GitHub)
JSFX (quite a few solid vintage outboard emulations by Tukan and others, downloadable via ReaPack)

 

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Dear clone (no irony),

What is your problem? You seem to be a fairly knowledgeable person, capable of constructive contribution to discussions and certainly more intelligent than other rabid Linux haters on this forum, but this behaviour is unhealthy for you and for everyone else. It's downright toxic.

No one should have a reaction like this to other people's choices and preferences that in no way affect them personally. And by all means they should be able to articulate their views in a less intolerant manner.

Please read again what you just spewed above. Is your intention to label me as a liar, as in your penultimate post, or as an idiot, as in the quote above, simply for having different likes and dislikes than yours? Because in this case one excludes the other. Please make up your mind and let me know so that I know how to proceed.

 

@ptpepper: I recognize what you say. I also have got to know Clone as a smart person with good answers and advise. But somehow this post hits his nerves in a very bad way. I don't know why. At first I thought it was me writing something in incorrect English. But that was obviously not the case. It's a pity because he usual gives well thought out comments. Quite different from some stupid members here who always only curse in each and every Linux post that Linux is stupid and Linux users are stupid and that that is the one and only truth.
In the real world you would invite somebody for a cop of coffee to talk things out. Usually it turns out to be a misunderstanding or a bad day and all can go on. The internet however is a different story you have to deal with.
I am always glad that there still are good and kind people almost always willing to help each other!