VST Alternatives To 3xOSC From FL Studio?

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  1. Darth Vader Son

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    Is there any VST which is so simple and powerfull?
    Is there synth with same stuff like 3xOSC like 3 oscillators and each of them with stereo phase offset, detune, semitone knob, fine knob, inverting oscillators option etc.?


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    You just described a whole lot of synths. But if I had to replace 3xOSC plugin in a project, I would probably load up Phase Plant first. Massive is maybe less cpu? it's easier to use anyway. I really like Phaseplant though. :)
     
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    Is there a way to recreate Stereo Phase Offset in any synth?
    When you use it sound start to moving and it creates nice stereo.
     
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    I really like Shade. you can change the phase %, pulse width, symmetry, shape, for each LFO. if you want something to add to any synth like that, it might be worth a look for you.

    what are you actually trying to make? I suggest Phaseplant because it is a very deep synth for Phase Distortion synthesis. I would like to tell you how to do this in the Virus emulator, because it is a 3osc synth interface with good sounding phase distortion as well. but there are still things (many like those) which are not completed yet, idk if you will be able to get much out of it yet. I think what you might be trying to do would be better for an effects plugin.
     
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    This function is what I care about the most:
    Stereo Phase Random

    Big knob at the bottom in 3xOSC

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    I'm happy with u-he Diva :)
     
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    There's a shit ton of freebies that fit close to the OSC3x style:

    Vital vst
    Monique vst
    Surge vst

    Are three that jump from memory. (forgive me for not providing links, that's what googling is for.)
     
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    Is it possible to make a 3x osc using Max For Live? Unfortunately I don't know how
     
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    Hello @djzura, the AI will help you, have fun making music:
    Yes, it's absolutely possible to build a 3x oscillator (3x-osc) device in Max For Live (M4L)—essentially a simple subtractive synthesizer with three independent oscillators that you can mix, detune, and shape for polyphonic or monophonic sounds. Max For Live is designed exactly for this kind of custom instrument creation, using visual patching (no traditional coding required) to assemble oscillators, envelopes, filters, and more. Since you mentioned you don't know how, I'll walk you through the basics step by step, based on standard M4L workflows. This assumes you have Ableton Live Suite (which includes M4L); if not, you'll need to upgrade.

    Quick Prerequisites



      • Open Ableton Live and create a new MIDI Instrument track.
      • In the browser (left sidebar), go to Devices > Max for Live > Max MIDI Effect (or Instrument if you want polyphony handling built-in).
      • Double-click to add it to the track, then click the "Edit" button (pencil icon) on the device to open the Max editor. This switches you to patching mode, where you build visually by dragging objects and connecting them with patch cords.
    If you're brand new to Max, start with Ableton's free M4L Essentials tutorials in the Help menu—they cover the patching basics in ~30 minutes.

    Step-by-Step: Building a Basic 3x-Osc in M4L
    We'll create three oscillators (sine waves for simplicity; you can swap for saw/triangle later), mix them, add basic pitch control from MIDI, and output audio. This is a monophonic version—add the poly~ object later for chords.




      • Set Up MIDI Input and Audio Output:
        • Drag a notein object from the sidebar (search "notein" in the object browser). This captures MIDI notes from your keyboard/controller.
          • Connect its left outlet (pitch) to a *~ 0.0005946 object (multiplies MIDI note to Hz; type that number for concert pitch A=440Hz).
          • Connect that to a +~ 0. object (adds fine-tune offset; we'll control this later).
        • For audio output, add a plug~ object at the end of your audio chain—it sends signal back to Live.
      • Build Oscillator 1 (Sine Wave):
        • Drag a cycle~ object (search "cycle~"). This is your basic oscillator.
          • In its box, type cycle~ 440. (starts at 440Hz).
          • Connect the Hz signal from step 1 (the +~ outlet) to the cycle~ inlet. Now it tracks MIDI pitch!
        • Add volume control: Drag a live.dial (for a knob in Live's UI). Connect its outlet to a *~ object, then connect that *~ inlet to the cycle~ left inlet (for amplitude) and right inlet (for stereo if needed).
      • Duplicate for Oscillators 2 and 3:
        • Select the cycle~ and related objects (Cmd/Ctrl+click to multi-select), then copy-paste (Cmd/Ctrl+C/V).
        • Paste twice for Osc 2 and Osc 3.
        • For detuning: Add a small offset to each +~ object.
          • Osc 1: +~ 0. (no detune).
          • Osc 2: +~ -2. (slightly flat).
          • Osc 3: +~ 7. (slightly sharp for chorusing).
        • Change waveforms if desired:
          • Sine: Keep cycle~.
          • Saw: Use phasor~ instead.
          • Square: Use rect~ 0.5 (50% duty cycle).
      • Mix the Oscillators:
        • Drag three *~ objects (one per osc) for individual volumes.
        • Connect each osc output to its *~ inlet.
        • Add three more live.dial objects labeled "Vol 1", "Vol 2", "Vol 3" (right-click > Inspector to name them and set range 0-1).
        • Connect dials to *~ inlets.
        • Drag an +~ object and connect all three *~ outlets to its inlets—this sums the signals.
        • Connect the +~ outlet to plug~ for output.
      • Add Basic Controls and Polish:
        • Master volume: Add a live.dial labeled "Master Vol" → *~ → into plug~.
        • Pitch bend/mod wheel: Add ctlout for MIDI CCs, route to your +~ objects.
        • Envelope (for note shaping): Drag adsr~ (search it), connect MIDI notein gate to trigger, and *~ the osc outputs through it.
        • Save: Cmd/Ctrl+S, name it "My3xOsc.amxd". It now appears in your browser.
    Test it: Arm the track, play MIDI keys—you should hear a basic detuned sine stack. Tweak dials in Live for mix.

    Enhancements for a Full 3x-Osc Feel



      • Filter: Add a reson~ or biquad~ after the mixer, controlled by another live.dial.
      • Polyphony: Wrap the whole synth in a poly~ object (encapsulate first with Cmd/Ctrl+E, then replace with poly~).
      • Waveforms Menu: Use live.menu to switch between cycle~, phasor~, etc., via a switch~ object.
      • LFO/Modulation: Add lfo~ objects to modulate pitch/volume.
    Resources to Get Started



      • Official Tutorial: Ableton's "How to Build a Synth in Max for Live" guide walks through a single-osc version—expand it to three. It covers pitch mapping and dials exactly like above.
      • Video Guide: Check "M4L Tutorial #6: Add a 2nd Oscillator to Synth by Encapsulation" on YouTube—it's short and shows duplicating oscs step-by-step (just add a third).
      • Free Examples: Download M4L Essentials from Ableton (includes "Bass" device with multi-osc mixing—open it in editor to reverse-engineer). Or browse maxforlive.com for "multi oscillator" devices (e.g., "Bank of Oscillators" for inspiration).
      • Community: Post your patch on Reddit's r/ableton or r/maxmsp for feedback—folks share .amxd files often.
    This should get you a working prototype in under an hour. If you hit snags (e.g., patching errors), describe the issue, and I can troubleshoot. Have fun patching—Max is intuitive once you drag your first object!
     
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    For the Stereo Phase Randomness knob:

    You can use spreader (a native FL Studio plugin) or NASE in case you want to archive that using external plugins. However, since the Stereo Phase Randomness knob changes the phase randomly (obviously), you will a method to random change the values of the spread knob on Spreader.

    For the Stereo Phase Controller knob:

    It allow you to select in with point (phase) of the wavetable the sound will start. You can archive this with Phase Plant by using the Phase Offset control below oscillator wavetables.
     
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    So far i know there is nothing, which could replace the 3xOsc.

    Well you could however use FL Studio plugin in other DAWs. If it opens nicely in the other DAW.

    Thats the best solution.

    Of course it would be nice if there was a FLplugin to VST3 wrapper.
    3xOsc is i think a FLplugin so far i remember.
     
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    Fuzzpilz - Oatmeal v38 1 VSTi - Fullpack - ReWork - 32 Bit - 96 MB - Free


    Oatmeal is a two-oscillator subtractive synth.

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