Going round and round with the same arguments, it does work and is very very close in most cases to be fully working - it just needs a bit of investment of time into wine to fix the remaining glitches

 

"Forget about Linux for audio."
...I hope I don't forget that I'm making a new track in Bitwig... right at this moment.
It obviously do work.

Money has nothing to do with the decision to run something else than Windows in this case.
I buy what I use in my daily workflow.. still use r2r versions of many plugins, but dev's get their paychecks.

Just be honest and say that YOU aren't interested. Since you are not concerned with what Windows has become, you can happily continue to use Windows. Right? Why waste your time replying if you are so bored and uninterested in the topic?
Maybe you should ask yourself why it does matter to you what OS other persons are using, you even seem mad and upset about it.

 

wait, so why are you here? in the linux section? go lick the corporate boot of apple or microsoft and let the big boys talk here in peace.

just for fun, let me address your qualms though.

1. using windows VSTs is a crutch, a workaround: using a small piece to get away from the entire ecosystem of spying, breaking, and locking down the tools we use.
   if we ever get to the point where devs consider linux a viable platform to release their stuff on (as some devs already do), the necessity for these crutches will disappear. will you complain then still?
2. some activation software that was made for windows doesn't work under linux... so it's easier to buy, and then crack the plugins to avoid dealing with bullshit DRM shoved down everyone's throats (looking at you ilok)
3. we are in the linux section, YOU came here to complain that people are talking here, so it's a YOU problem.

there are challenges and limitations when working with linux as opposed to windows and macos. that's the nature of it, when you choose any of these "big 3", you win some, you lose some. with windows you get telemetry, ads, but compatibility; with macos you get locked down ecosystem and expensive hardware and no games, but you get stability, ease-of-use; with linux you get a steeper learning curve and working with CLI tools instead of GUIs, but freedom, and customizability - just from the top of my head. what is more important to you and to any single person is their personal choice.

 

By the way, Presonus Studio One now also has CLAP support.
Previously, you had to install FL Studio to play CLAP instruments like those from Nakst.

I'm married to Studio One; I bought it, too. I won't be able to and won't want to switch. I won't use any other DAW like Ableton or Bitwig. I've already installed and tested Linux—I'm too old to learn everything again.

But Linux has actually steadily and slowly improved. In some of our cities, the move away from Microsoft and its products has already begun, due to cost, stability, and data protection concerns.

The market share will probably increase slightly, and who knows what negative things will happen to our operating systems in the future. It's quite possible that at some point we'll have to go offline to protect our systems, and then surf the web probably with Linux.

 

sorry for a silly question, but it's not obvious from your post: are you using studio one on linux or are you still on win/mac?

studio one is now on linux, too, is why I ask

 

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Hi @mitori, always ask, because there are no stupid questions here.

I use Windows 11 with "PreSonus - Studio One DAW" and "Cakewalk - Sonar DAW."

I last used and tested Linux about 21 years ago.

 

damn, yeah, that's a while ago! a lot has changed since then! but honestly I don't blame you for wanting to stay with the familiar. I invested quite a bit of time and effort into this transition, switched to bitwig from ableton and they are very similar and bitwig is super simple to get into. I wanted to give studio one a shot (even converted a .deb to .rpm), but after learning that it doesn't support external plugins in the demo, I gave up on it...

there was one thing I ended up having to throw out and find a replacement for: neural dsp plugins. I found a workaround how I can still run those, but it's super resource intensive, so that is reserved for legacy projects in case I absolutely need to run something old

 

Some Ableton programmers came up with the idea for Bitwig and founded a company. With Studio One, two Steinberg Cubase programmers went into business for themselves and founded PreSonus. Both products are from Hamburg and Berlin, Germany. I think it's great that you've delved into the subject matter and understood and solved problems. Which Linux do you recommend?

 

thank you for the kind words! I struggle to put myself into shoes of someone who knows nothing or very little about linux or tech in general - not implying that you are one of such people, it's just something that has been on my mind a bit lately - but with the win10 EOL being very soon, I've seen a lot of talk about this very topic. the consensus seems to be linux mint for people who aren't very familiar with linux. me personally, I use fedora workstation, although I have considered an arch-based cachyos for their performance improvements, but I don't trust myself to run arch-based stuff for now, I wanted something more stable, and with red hat backing fedora, I think it's a solid choice.
the biggest problem I have run into from my choice of distro is that I had to convert debian packages that seem to be the common choice for music software devs (studio one and bitwig included) into rpm packages. it wasn't difficult, but added a step to the installation process. linux mint, for example, wouldn't have this issue, since it's already debian-based.

PS my backup workaround if I absolutely need neural dsp is running audiogridder with a neural dsp plugin in a windows virtual machine and route midi/audio to my linux daw

 

The book I read back then: Installing, Configuring, and Using Linux from OPS-Verlag with CD-ROM Open Linux Lite v1.2! Thanks for the brief digression about the distribution. I'm sure other users here are reading it, so you can get a little insight into what needs to be done and what's available.

 

For me only 27 years ago
There was no Internet for average people. One of the hardest things I've pulled off in my life.
But the alternative was to work in a college project using absolute dinosaurs Sun workstations with a Solaris Unix... worth it

I did also try KUbuntu way later. And some later Ubuntu

PS. I'm talking only about desktop Linux's. Since I started working I always use server Linux as I'm a backend web developer.

Well, I get it but that's too far IMHO. There's a sweet spot for everything

 

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The only problem is that for about 90% of users in this thread, he has them pegged dead to rights. (my post isn't reference to you Xupito).

It's always the biggest FNG newbies who are simultaneously the biggest fanboys, and always the loudest. " I can make a full song in my DAW!! now" Time for multiple threads telling people how great it is on every forum and social available. "What Windows software? (while deleting all past posts about R2R released software).

An entire 5 page thread with tears about not being able to get plugins running in linux that are released by some of the world's best reverse engineers is the only proof anyone needs. It's not the operating system that draws people's ire. It's about telling everyone loudly how great your new free shoes are now that you finally figured out how to find your feet to put them on, and are now working on learning about tying your shoelaces. We're all proud of you.

Linux is great. But this thread is just a bunch of included OS snark and shows off who you really are. Begging for help to get simple audio plugins working that have even had all the hard work done by others, and running almost nothing open-source except figuring out how to read your email. You might as well stick Kali on a flash drive because you still can't figure out the root password to install it, fire up a Windows VM so you can run Core Impact, and then tell us all about it while you cry for help in every thread on the subject. The quieter you are, the more you can hear.

 

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Because you're talking smack about something you really have no clue about. I do agree with you that the evil twin OS's and the corporate capitalists that dev them cannot be trusted any further than they can be thrown. I don't like either of the evil twins to be honest. But given the choices I cannot give linux much credence because it's not viable enough on which to base a creative platform of tools that runs out of sight out of mind.

Uhmmm... A "crutch" - as in being able to work creatively without having to screw around with the OS messing with your head every 3 minutes ? If that's a crutch, then I'll take the crutch and leave the *nix funny business to you.

Dev's don't consider linux a viable platform, BECAUSE IT ISN'T A VIABLE PLATFORM, just as most will attest. A workable platform? Sure, but not for the creatively minded.

Isn't that why we are all here in the first place? Because WE ALL HATE DRM?

No it's a YOU problem. Again, we're here because you're talking smack about something you really have no clue about.

With windows you have a CHOICE as a user to build it out WITH or WITHOUT that garbage ware. Some users are keen to not wanting to deal with that crap so they can take steps to squash that stuff. It's a choice and a reality. Unlike you (re: win/apple) I have actually tested the linux platform for creative media work, and the result has been frustrating every single time I have tested it. I will say that linux has come a ways since my first tests back in the day. But recent testing has proven (to me anyway) that its still not ready for prime time.

If you're asking, then my choice is to take the OS out of the equation so I can concentrate on the creative aspect rather than dealing with a wonky platform that is always in my face so to speak... Unfortunately that leaves only two evil choices.

 

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