Favorite A.I./Machine Learning software for mixing . . .

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  1. tommyzai

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    Favorite A.I./Machine Learning software for mixing . . .

    Suddenly, there are many options.
     
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    Sleep on it for a night or two, considering the negative consequences. Remember, AI is and will be a huge business.
     
  4. tommyzai

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    I've been sleeping. ;-) Time to awake and make music.
     
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    *Thread moved. Please choose the appropriate subcategory when creating threads. TY
     
  6. Lieglein

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    Techivation AI Rack.
     
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    Izotope Neutron 4 (Mix Assistant) www.izotope.com/en/products/neutron/features/mix-assistant

    This VST includes a “Mix Assistant” feature which analyzes audio and automatically applies processing such as EQ, compression, saturation and stereo imaging. It can be used on single tracks, but it’s especially useful for bus processing.

    The best part about the Mix Assistant is that you can always tweak the parameters after the automatic processing. In this way you get to the end result faster without sacrificing any control over your tracks.

    Everyone can mix now! || iZotope Neutron 4
     
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  8. curtified

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    pay sub and insert GROK quote here:

    my most used machine learnt plug has got to be gullfoss. They took 10 years of human hearing training data to make it. Its a subtle plug but it does a good job at doing a light clean up of a track.

    Runner ups:
    AI Clarity
    Wavesfactory - Equalizer
    TEOTE

    There are a lot of amp sims, synths, and other plugs that take data from real world hardware to "train" their algos.

    Brings up the debate should the person who created the pultec get royalties for every clone of its sauce??
     
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  9. justwannadownload

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    This one is pure hand-written math AFAIK, no "AI" involvement of any kind.

    Frankly tho this thread is just not for me. I recently stopped using Gullfoss because it messes up the dynamics even on 15%-ish settings.
     
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    oh damn I didnt know I classify it in my mind that way. I take back that suggestion.
     
  11. shinjiya

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    Letting the AI take full control (still) has disastrous results, because AI lacks a very important skill in mixing, that is intent. If you have intent and some level of skill, the AI can shorten the time it takes to mix a song. As it stands, I would say that the AI mixes better than 70% of engineers, just because those engineers simply lack intent when mixing a song. If it's raw ability for the technical points of a mix, the AI will always win against most people, period.

    That said, here are some plugins that work for getting the technical part mostly done for you, and that still have plenty of room for actually mixing with intent:

    - EQ: learnEQ from Sonible. Easier to dial and more inviting to have intent compared to smartEQ, in which the AI does the job and there's really no incentive for trying something different
    - Compression: smartComp or learnComp from Sonible. Good clean compression pretty much dialed in well enough. Though, any compressor is easy if you can hear compression.
    - Limiting: smartLimit from Sonible. Hands down one of the best limiters, AI or not. Comes with Inflator and Gullfoss built-in and most people don't realize that.
    - Saturation: M-Exciter from Techivation. Great results with minimal fiddling. Does saturation better than most amateur engineers would with a single click.
    - Mastering (general): Ozone 12 from iZotope. Mastering assistant is finally good, subtle and transparent settings make a mix better instead of worse. Then you can make it great if you think critically about the AI choices.
     
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    sonible smartgate.
     
  13. Barry T

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    Neutron 5 is already out, buddy. Your ChatGPT needs updated information.
     
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    ChatGPT against itself..
     
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    truth to be told I haven't found any to consider "go-to" yet,
    they're all either too subtle and generic (ML) or hit & miss (genAI),
    many plugins already have some kind of learn feature to feed noise/reference into, but again results are far from ideal imo

    UVR5 is rather good if you want to split off drums or vocals from complete mix and process further, but that's more of a mastering-fixer type of scenario
    :chilling:
     
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    Even if seems a bit early for multirtack AI-driven mixing, there are some interesting (free/open) projects out there...
    ...as always I've collected some for the HyMPS project here:
    AUDIO \ AI-based \ Mixing/Mastering

    Enjoy !
     
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  17. dylan63819

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    @curtified Is there already any tool or VST ai that takes advantage of the GPU?
     
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    In testing I've yet to find any AI mixing that is above average, with Izotope's Nutron 4 the best middle ground as it assists but allows the end user to determine the direction of the mix. Always remember that no AI actually hears or feels the mix, thus they will never know what the mix needs to feel right in the air, or the musical intention of the creator IMHO.
     
  19. tommyzai

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    My dream is to have a software that could do this . . .

    I track a song . . . let's say it's a standard classic rock configuration with Drums, Bass, Lead Guitar, Rhythm Guitar or Keys, Lead Vocals, Backing Vocals.
    Then I find a song that I want it to sound like (mix-wise, tone-wise).
    My A.I. software then works its magic and transforms my tracks and overall mix to emulate my target song.
     
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    The concept of reference tracks is nonsense and mixing is the most simple and unrelevant process in creating music.

    It is more advisable to let the A.I software create the composition. It's better at such things than most of the people out there anyways.
     
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    Allow me to introduce myself: I am a highly sophisticated, expertly machine-learnt bedroom producer trained for well over 10,000 hours on Non -Grammy-nominated stems, terrible sync songs, Cymatics sample packs, and countless wrongfully melodyned vocals. After so many years of working in audio, i am devoid of human emotions or feelings, allowing me to analyze your song with the upmost clarity. Why settle for just one or two "AI" plugins? I have access to an absurd amount of suspicious plug-ins, downloaded from the armpit of the internet.

    For the modest subscription price of just $420.69 a month, I will:

    • Mix and master your tracks with my patented "Better Than You™ Technology".

    • politely insult your rough mixes using vague terminology while never offering a constructive solution.

    • bounce your mixes in my incredible "Ultra Premium Quantum Blockchain Hyper Skibidi Cloud DSP Technology™ (patent pending)

    • provide unlimited mixes and masters, unless you are annoying, or i'm tired, or you live in some city or country i don't like
    Why trust your art to some random machine trained plugins, where you still have to make the final decision? Instead, you can entrust it to me, an expert, who definitely is not jaded or depressed, and will absolutely not treat your work as just another chore to bring in a paycheck so that i can hopefully pay rent next month.

    Thank you for considering. I offer a free trial, just provide me with your credit card info, social security number, and all of your passwords for anything on the internet.
     
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