and prepare.
or make good money with assambly line shit music distrubuted online .
but be prepared .
...dont need to get into the live sector do i .that 2-3 peeps max here on the board have a good outcome from live shows and distro means absoltly nothing for the rest online here .

when you still dont know whats ahead for the normal pupils living in the west i cant help .

 

This is definitely nothing new. Long before there was teh interwebs there were these things called "record companies" run by heartless greedy pricks much like the guys that run Spotify. As Dr. Hunter S.Thompson said years ago:

"“The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.”

- Hunter S. Thompson

 

i sometimes wonder what people expect to receive for 10k streams of their title. that you can make a living from it with family, house, and sports car?

when your song is played on german TV in a saturday evening show you get at a maximum around 150 euro per minute - but this is with 3 to 10 million listeners.

atm people upload more than 100k new titles per day to streaming services. in 2025 spotify alone expects to hit the 50 million titles per year barrier. so if you upload one song to them, your market share is 0.00000002%

or imagine spotify would keep nothing for themselves and pay out everything. then you had 30% more than now, for example 1,30 USD instead of 1 USD. isn´t it?

 

Spotify is garbage. I don't use it, except in very rare cases where my band is traveling for tour and I'll jump into a jam playlist with our bass player, so I can add songs for the car ride. Other than that, I buy my music directly from the bands via physical format like CDs or via bandcamp, then put the files on my phone. I really wish the rest of the band didn't want to put our music on spotify and would just stick to bandcamp, cause I really don't want them profiting from us, even if it's only a few cents.

 

I watched a majority of this, and it was interesting. Isn't what he is talking about sort of weaponization against someone specific? What I mean is that, is anyone doing this to just random artists/bands/etc for anything besides meanness, spite, revenge, or whatever else? It doesn't seem like getting peoples' music taken down would be a scheme for them to profit from. It's more of an attack than a financial scam of some kind.

 

the opposite is true, when people released media they made more money than they do today.

everyone i know who releases media still makes money from it.

it would be sufficient not to upload to spotify. if nobody would use streaming, streaming companies would not exist and you could still sell CDs and mp3s.

it is idiodic to sign contracts and then complain about the situation you have caused yourself. that applies to major label deals as well as streaming platforms, to employment contracts as well as politicians you voted for.

grow up, act responsibly.

 

i have made money off spotify from the past - but its not worth it.. more money to put music on spotify then recieve back
better to get monetized videos on youtube or sell music or samples or gear.. or if you are big artist try to do a liveset at tomorrowland or ultra miami but i doubt you are on that level

 

It's the classic tale of the have's screwing over the have-not's. It's been going on since human monkeys have inhabited this planet and will continue to go on ad nauseam long after we're all gone. Unfortunately, there are no "safe" company/corporate distribution and/or streaming platforms that don't screw over the artists/bands who provide them with the content on which they profit. The safest bet for a band or artist is to run their own website and distro their stuff that way or, as was mentioned above, physical media i.e. cd/dvd/cassette/vinyl, etc that is sold and controlled by the artists/bands themselves.

The "record" conglomerates and their turnkey distribution infrastructures can provide a hands off experience for the artist/band, but the contracts that are levied in those scenarios do not provide much in the way of remuneration for the artists. The only way an artist will see any kind of significant dividend from a "record contract" thru a major label is if they are selling thousands of records and are touring their asses off.

These days as opposed to decades ago, the creative tools for doing professional audio productions is available to almost anyone. This has saturated the content market with many no-talent "artists" all vying for the same piece of the action as those who actually have talent and something relevant to say. This phenomenon is probably the most frustrating aspect of the music biz in the modern era.

 

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And this is what happens when you have un-unionized scabs idiots running around in big numbers at any place, not just music industry. It happens to chicken farmers too, we are not special at all. They are also given all the tools by the big corpo to "manage themselves" and then made to compite against each other for "a pot" on rigged auctions done by the same big corpo. And then some more joins with yet another individualistic solution to solve the evident collective problems (thinking it will work from themselves if they try hard enough, ofc )

It's squizofrenic sisyphus hilarious. We are soo prepared to fight back this AI disruption technology on the labor force this time.

 

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the ones buying cd/dvd/bluray/cassette/vinyl getting less and less with every year.dont need to be a marked analyst to know that . its simple 1x1 .
knowing what the puppet show will serve to us in next years its just suicidal to invest time and money in music craft if not doing a quick move as very young artist distrubuting to current bigger juvenile bubbles
even if you kno nothing bout the true shizzles happened,happening and will happen , and just have partly overview over global msm and a slight observation of current and last 10-15 years of the music industry/marked you should know.

better spend time on learning canning food , no shit .

 

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you are so wrong in so many levels that I just refute everything you say