Is here a Serum Guru
who can recreate a Serum *.FXB or *.serumpreset for me,
1:1 corresponding to the attachment ?

Thanks in Advance

Theo

btw: Original Song=
Divine - Native Love (Bobby "O" Production)

 

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You can also try this website that will take audio and make it a serum or vital preset. I think you get a handful of tries for free.

https://micromusic.tech/app

Here is a lil video:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HtgskSnJs6c

 

Thanks, but works only with Vital

 

profanation!
we are all doomed

 

Last edited: Sep 9, 2025 at 12:50 AM

Presets are made for both Serum and Vital. Plus, Vital is free so it isn't an issue anyway, even installing doesn't take much storage.

 

But there is also no need for it if you already have Serum and that is what this guy asked for. You wouldn't ask for a "Vital guru" to make you a Serum patch.

I don't understand the point of this anyway @ op. You want a preset like someone else's synth patch (which is probably someone else's preset anyway), made by yet some other person. In a synth plugin that also can use wavetables and now much larger samples in the new sampler oscillator. Then since you ask for 1:1, get a preset that is super close and dick around with the details.

At least if you use ChatGPT or Other AI it will show you the steps so you can actually learn something from doing it. Stem separate it first, upload it and it will tell you. Convert the newly separated wav file and then extract midi from it so you can play it back and tweak it while matching it to the waveform you got from separation.

Spoiler

Sound Analysis
Upon listening to your WAV file, the sound exhibits characteristics of a vocal-like texture with a choppy, rhythmic quality. It appears to be a processed vocal sample, possibly from a spoken word or vocal chop, with noticeable formant shifts and spectral movement.

Recreating the Sound in Serum
To replicate this sound in Serum, follow these steps:

1. Import the WAV File as a Wavetable

• Drag and Drop: Simply drag your WAV file into Serum's wavetable editor. Serum will analyze the audio and create a wavetable from it.
  
  Note: Ensure your WAV file is in a supported format (e.g., 16-bit, 44.1kHz, uncompressed). If you encounter issues, consider converting the file using a tool like Audacity.

2. Adjust Wavetable Position and Morphing

• Wavetable Position: Set the WT Pos to a point where the vocal texture is prominent.
  
  
• Morphing Mode: Experiment with different morphing modes (e.g., Spectral, Crossfade) to achieve the desired smoothness or choppiness in the sound.

3. Apply Unison and Detune

• Unison: Set the Unison to around 4-8 voices to thicken the sound.
  
  
• Detune: Adjust the Detune to add width and movement.

4. Utilize the Noise Oscillator

• Noise Oscillator: Load a noise sample that complements the vocal texture (e.g., Vinyl Noise or Analog Noise).
  
  
• Blend: Mix the noise oscillator with the main wavetable to add texture and richness.

5. Set Up Filters

• Filter Type: Choose a Low Pass or Band Pass filter to shape the tonal quality.
  
  
• Cutoff and Resonance: Adjust the Cutoff to control the brightness and the Resonance to emphasize certain frequencies.

6. Modulate with Envelopes and LFOs

• Envelope 1: Assign it to control the Filter Cutoff for dynamic movement.
  
  
• LFO 1: Use it to modulate the Wavetable Position or Pitch for rhythmic variation.

7. Add Effects

• Reverb: Apply a subtle Reverb to add space.
  
  
• Delay: Use a Delay with a short feedback time to enhance the rhythmic aspect.
  
  
• Distortion: Light Distortion can add warmth and character.

️ Additional Tips

• Spectral Morphing: If the wavetable sounds too choppy, enable Spectral Morphing to smooth transitions between frames.
  
  
• Formant Shifts: To replicate formant shifts, automate the WT Pos or use an LFO to modulate it.
  
  
• Pitch Modulation: For pitch variations, assign an LFO to the Pitch parameter.

It's basically what they often call an "outrun" bass, but one octave up.
In Serum , you could start with a saw-based wavetable (analog, classic shapes), add a lowpass filter, punch in the envelope for cutoff, and optionally morph in a vocal-like wavetable if you want that formant flavor letting it come out with the Filter 1 cutoff.

 

Last edited: Sep 8, 2025 at 8:59 PM

You can pick between serum and vital. Just trying to help.

 

It's not about synth. Synth part is pretty basic. Saw, unison, lp24 filter. Pick something that has proper osc and filter drift like diva or any arturia synth. The non synth part - I clearly hear guitar amp and cabinet.

 

That AI saying it has a vocal texture is totally wrong. It doesn't have formant like qualities. Bobby O is producer from the 80s and used Sequential Circuits Prophet-5 for this sound, definitely in unison mode, basically all oscillators / voices (5) stacked on one note. DanielFaraday basically said it, just stack few saw unisons in Serum (turn the default detune amount bit down, so you have only slight detune not too much). Then a lowpass filter with snappy filter envelope and you're there. Maybe also bit of distortion / saturation, cabinet amp effect could work with easy settings why not. Get on it bruh, it's pretty easy

 

Last edited: Sep 9, 2025 at 8:41 AM

A formant is resonant energy. Just like there is non-vocal sibilance, there can be non-vocal formant peaks. Google it.

If the synth doesn't matter, why can't it be done in Serum as the OP asked? This is a rhetorical question.

 

Last edited: Sep 9, 2025 at 7:32 AM

Ok but that AI was totally in the dark saying it was some kind of vocal sample with a vocal texture and spectral formant movement or whatnot. The original sound in the clip was made on Prophet-5 there is no formant manipulation in that synth or the ability to load in some kind of vocal sample. Anyways, I know it was rhetorical question but I think this sound can be created on Serum for sure. Now can you get the same texture as in Prophet-5, if you really want to have 1:1 recreation and have golden ears that can hear that elusive analogue quality and warmness that a real Prophet-5 exhibits. Hard to say!

 

Last edited: Sep 9, 2025 at 8:52 AM

I know it can be created closely in Serum, because I made one the way I described. I separated the file using RipX, which actually kicked out 1 bass file, and the "other.wav" it always creates was the top end of the bass synth. That left some of the reverb and additional tone mentioned using a guitar amp sim for. I threw the bass into Logic, enabled Flex Pitch and converted it to Midi. The timing drift is visible in the resulting Midi data. That was when I noticed how similar it is as some of the Outrun style mid bass patches you hear in retro/synthwave tracks these days. Total time about 10 minutes, but not 1:1 and so I deleted it because these threads always turn into a very close result and then "that's not close enough" and ultimately looping back to "quit being so lazy and do it yourself if it's not close enough".

At least the ChatGPT version spits out some directions. That AI preset site kicks something out and gives you nothing but the same result "kinda" accuracy. The GPT "vocal" formant characteristics text doesn't apply to a Prophet, but I actually do hear why it mentioned it in the filter "morph" department.

The only reason I think Serum should be used to do it, was because it is what the original poster requested. Anything you can do in Vital, you can do in Serum.

Maybe ChatGPT will get the overall description of an "Outrun" correct:

Spoiler

An “outrun” bass is a synth bass sound associated with the 80s retro-futuristic / synthwave / outrun aesthetic. It’s named after the video game OutRun and the whole neon-soaked, driving nighttime highway vibe of that era. It’s more of a style than a specific synth preset.

Some characteristics:

1. Sawtooth or pulse wave – Often using detuned saws to give a wide, thick, analog feel.
   
   
2. Lowpass filter with resonance – Smooth cutoff, sometimes modulated for movement.
   
   
3. Chorus or unison – Adds width and that lush, “80s arcade” vibe.
   
   
4. Short to medium decay / release envelope – Tight enough for rhythm but not completely staccato.
   
   
5. Octave up layering – Sometimes an extra layer an octave higher for clarity.
   
   
6. Sidechain or subtle gate – Creates pumping movement if played in a rhythmic synthwave track.
   
   
7. Occasionally portamento / glide – Adds that sliding retro feel between notes.
   

In practice, an outrun bass is usually a punchy, mid-bass lead that drives a track, often following the root notes of chord progressions but more focused on rhythm and energy than harmonic detail.

 

Last edited: Sep 9, 2025 at 9:24 AM

It is close to some common synthwave basses for sure. I don't want to get into AI argument but in this case AI just overcomplicated things when the sound is quite simple actually to make. It can be detrimental to a new comer imho and the new comer gets confused.

 

It's more sensible to search for a similar preset among the previously released presets

Spoiler: Source: Grok KI

Finding Divine-Inspired Presets
If you’d rather use existing presets than build from scratch, Serum’s ecosystem offers thousands of options:

• Factory Presets: Serum includes 450+ presets, with categories like “Bass” and “Bass (Hard)” that may suit Divine’s punchy style. Check presets like “BS – Neurotic” or “BA – Reese” for gritty, danceable basses.
• Third-Party Packs:
  • Zenhiser’s Extreme Serum Bass: Contains 101 bass presets, including “Acid Bass,” “Bass House,” and “Reese Bass,” which align with Divine’s energetic sound.
  • New Loops Serum Bass: Offers 64 modern bass presets, including “punchy FM Trance basses” and “electric EDM basses,” ideal for Hi-NRG vibes.
  • SoundLoad Serum xFer Platinum Extension Mega Bundle: Claims over 80,000 presets, including bass-focused packs for EDM, House, and Trance, likely containing Divine-esque sounds.
  • Splice: Offers Serum 2 presets, including artist-inspired packs. Search for “80s,” “Hi-NRG,” or “disco” bass presets.
• Free Presets: Check BVKER.com or Cymatics.fm for free Serum bass presets, such as “84 FREE Serum Presets For Dubstep, Bass House & Trap” by W.A. Production, which may include punchy, modulated basses adaptable to Divine’s style.

80s Bass Tutorial in Serum (Retro, Pop, Synthwave)

 

Last edited: Sep 9, 2025 at 10:37 AM

Very broad and sorry to say again confusing advice from AI. Most of those are not close to what OP is asking. The last tip about searching for 80s, h-nrg disco basses is ok tip. I think some synthwave preset packs can be a good starting point.

 

Making an AWESOME ⭐️disco⭐️ bass in Xfer Serum

Future Disco Bass with Serum

 

That one is pretty cool, definitely Bobby O / Patrick Cowley 80s hi-nrg disco style bass sound.

 

After identifying the style, I asked the AI, which, as you already noticed, didn't deliver great results, and then started searching myself. Using Devine and nrg-A, I got this promising result. I hope the OP puts it together himself or finds another user to create the preset. Thanks for your efforts, @villageidiot. I'm also a big Patrick Cowley fan.

 

Finally found one! You're welcome!