Went to a beatlisten session in Amsterdam with Detroit Swindle

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  1. bkacksoul66

    bkacksoul66 Member

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    My track is the result after I listened to their feedback. personally I think the volume of the kick is still too loud.

    Curious to feedback done on anythign in the track which means arrangement or sounds or mixing and mastering. I put alot of effort in the track and it has been different alot of times. Hope u enjoy :)

     
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  3. PulseWave

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    I see and hear the same thing: turn the kick down a bit or turn something else up!
     
  4. villageidiot

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    Not sure if kick should be quieter, it should be loud for this type of music. Maybe could be turned slightly down, but I think it's ok. Nice track anyways. Clap could be bit louder but might be just subjective taste
     
  5. PulseWave

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    The kick is too dominant; the other instruments are there, but they don't really stand out. You can hear it immediately, and you've probably heard and noticed it yourself. Listen again with rested ears, perhaps on a different player.
     
  6. Donald Reagon

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    like this the kick is the main thing going on there it should not be lowered
     
  7. bkacksoul66

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    Thanks for the feedback guys.
     
  8. bkacksoul66

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    I agree the kick might be lowered a bit. what kind of techno do u listen Pulsewave? I just use the standard -6db for kick and -8-10 for the rest.
     
  9. PulseWave

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    I'm an old man, which means I've been listening to music for over 50 years. I listen to all styles.
    I've been doing sound design since 2011! www.kvraudio.com/developer/sonic-sirius

    Listen to the video and pay particular attention to the bass.

    Paul van Dyke - We Are Alive


    More : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCodQo76JWa75exuuEpucVeA
     
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    Loose the bass entirely, it's so then...be now.

    :no:
     
  11. shinyzen

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    Kick is too loud as well as being too "EDM". Roll off some of the highs to get rid of the EDM-ness. Make it deeper, more thumpy.

    There is a hole in the mids. Which is making the track feel weak. It may be that the kick is overpowering everything, so you cannot compress / clip / limit enough to bring everything up. It may be that a certain element in your track needs to be brought up. It may be something needs eq-ing. Something needs to happen to fill out some space. Try parallel multi-band saturation on your sub. Experiment with the range. Try 100-300 hz, 300-500, 750-1k, 1k-3k, or anywhere in between. Experiment with the Q. Don't be afraid to really push it, so its almost distorting or overdriven, and then use a LPF after to filter out some of the highs. Im not sure if your sub is rolling across two octaves or if its two different synths, but there are some higher notes in the bass line. If its one synth, consider duplicating it, and processing the lower notes separately from the higher ones. Use mb compression or general compression to glue them back together in a group / buss.

    The stabby dub delay synth thing needs some center power and sparkle. its too spatial. Im not sure what you have going on with it, but if you have spatial processing adding width, either on the synth or in the master processing, back off it a tad. Use m/s eq on the synth, in the mid section add a nice bump anywhere from 1k-5k. in the sides use a high shelf to add sparkle anywhere from 3k and up.

    Experiment with more automation. Don't go crazy and completely change your song, but just use some more automation across various elements. Slowly across 8, 16 or 32 bar sections. Things like Baby Audio Transit, low pass and high pass filters, delay sends, reverb wash-outs etc. The key thing here is subtle for the most part. Subtle movements. You are a conductor, leading an orchestra, your orchestra players are playing your percussion, your hats, your dub synth, your bass, your kick, etc. Guide them how to perform and create movement, tension, and help portray the story. Subtle. Pushed more in sections if needed. Example being subtle moves of 10-20 percent slowly moving up or down across 16 bars, from bar 14-16 add another effect and push it from 0-50% to give that push and tension.

    The drone-ish / fog horn type bass that comes in around 1:50 could be weirder for sure, its too static. Boring and lifeless. Try various FX, just don't over-do it. Could also probably use some frequency dependent ducking (soothe, trackspacer etc sidechained to the sub and or kick) and light general sidechain.
     
  12. bkacksoul66

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    Oké I can reply on this. The sub was first 45HZ together with the kick but I upped it too 90HZ so it has room because of the kick. I do use multiband saturation alot like Roar from Ableton but I didnt on the bassline. Also the synth before was indeed in a much roamer spectrum together with ableton's new auto filter it was filling also 500hz. I actually thought I needed to push the high's but ur right since there nothing in the middle except for the drums. So that what I did, i pushed the highes with multiband saturation and Fresh Air plugin. So i need to push the mid's on the synth.

    I just find producing good music very hard but thanks for the feedback. maybe i come back with another version of this track.
     
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    For anyone who cares this was the track originally and many versions before and after :)

    haha

     
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    You're talented, I've listened to your songs on SoundCloud, but the mixing needs some improvement.
    Maybe you should have a professional mix it. Or take a course or read a book on mixing and mastering and practice...!
     
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