"ChatGPT (And AI in general) is making you stupid!"

1. Doing anything on social media purely for sad validation (Likes) from absolute strangers makes us stupid.

2. Finding oneself stuck in a 3 hour dummy-binge of TikTok vids is laughably stupid.

3. Operating an Android device without root access, not repacing it's OS, then ditching Google is privacy stupid.

ChatGPT = It's not stupid...it's a trap. 20x worse than TikTok bc people are in awe of this GPT nonsense.

With ChatGPT (From my understanding), you're by yourself, talking to yourself, helping data-driven computer code mind your personal business, plus help you chase imaginary/probable outcomes? Then what?

ChatGPT is the new hyped-up fidget spinner for a certain type of unfulfilled cat.

 

I think that social media has created mindless zombies, it repulses me seeing people on this garbage continuously everyday everywhere I have never used any of this useless crap. I have a real life to live and will not become a completely brainwashed, useless slug. Everywhere I go every, person I see is completely absorbed on their phones oblivious to all else around them. Thoroughly and completely indoctrinated and ready to be easily conquered, eliminated or enslaved, sheeple not to be considered human anymore.
"I think, therefore I am" "Cogito, ergo sum"
I think that a massive worldwide EMP penetrating miles below the earth would be a new beginning for this entire planet, it would enable us start over with only the primitive electronics of the past and everyone would be back to work rebuilding a hopefully better world.

 

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We need to start teaching people the truth about smartphones, AI, and social media early and consistently in schools.
We need to empower them to understand and use this digital world correctly.

Imagine traffic without rules, signs, and police—absolute chaos—that's what the World Wide Web with its antisocial media is like right now. The ban on these devices in schools is slowly becoming more prevalent because academic performance has declined, violence has increased, and stupidity has increased.

 

Free will doesn't exist.

Repeat after me : free will doesn't exist.

Still, pretend it does, and choose to use your own intellect instead of tools that do the thinking for you.

 

Suggestion was a core tenet of Millgram's study involving pschological boundaries in so much as to where, when, how and to what extent a person will be willing cross their own preconceived line of autonomy, and in so doing breaking the boundary between what they conceive as humanity and that of other non-human intelligences. To me Millgram's term and usage of the coined phrase cyranoid is far more about the willingness of the person deceiving others into pretending to express their own thoughts as it is those that have been hoodwinked into believing the authorship of the speaker. Corti and Gillespie pretty much just replicated the original thought experiment. It confirms that humanity has been trained to be quite gullible and passively follow orders of the most heinous kinds as well as buy into most anything at all...wars, pograms, genocides and other nasty stuff as we have beared witness to in the pages of honest historians and journalists.

 

Actually, I have started learning while using AI. I had to correct all its mistakes. It appeared that I answered my own questions because AI tried to mislead me.

 

You're both adults who have learned to process information, probably starting with books. You both have had to sort and correct what is basically human knowledge poorly regurgitated by an algorithm using huge statistical databases.

I dont think people born with it or who are currently children and have been trained to use tablets and computers at school and home will have the same ability to doubt and to analyze things. I hope I'm beeing wrong.

And what @Riddim Machine says about the cultural and/or political biases of the output is true and is a problem.

Amongst many others.
Like having given a machine a survival instinct and a reward circuitry. Next thing might be a reproductive instinct. Some guy will probably program that just because it is possible. (I blame secure electric sockets and child-proof lighters for that : it has allowed to survive cretins who try stuff just to see what it does, instead of being normally eliminated by the darwinian selection process. They now work in AI and Biotech. < joke. Well I typed it as a joke. Not that sure it is one in the end.)
Everytime we interact with those things, we train them to use language in a finer way. Language is the brick of perceived reality for Humans. Basically, we've given it an almost direct channel to our (gullible) brains. This is an artificial parasitic primitive lifeform with an ability to manipulate our behaviour (that's what makes it parasitic).
It consumes huge amounts of metals (mining is one of the most environmentally destructive human activities) and energy. It will enter in competition with us and other natural lifeforms.

What's especially painful with living in the future is that it is shitty and that I've already lived it 40/30 years ago when I was reading Science-Fiction books.

 

If AI isn't good for you, just do without it.
Find out beforehand what damage it can and doesn't have to cause, and learn how to use it sensibly.


Is ChatGPT Making Us Stupid? By Robert B. Tucker

In boardrooms and classrooms, coffee shops and cubicles, the same question keeps coming up: Is ChatGPT making us smarter, or is it making us intellectually lazy—maybe even stupid?

There’s no question that generative artificial intelligence is a game-changer. ChatGPT drafts our emails, answers our questions, and completes our sentences. For students, it’s become the new CliffsNotes. For professionals, a brainstorming device. For coders, a potential job killer. In record time, it has become a productivity enhancer for almost everything. But what is it doing to our brains?

As someone who has spent his career helping clients anticipate and prepare for the future, this question deserves our attention. With any new technology, concerns inevitably arise about its impact. When calculators were first introduced, people worried that students would lose their ability to perform basic arithmetic or mental math skills. When GPS was first introduced, some fretted that we would lose our innate sense of direction. And when the internet bloomed, people grew alarmed that easy access to information would erode our capacity for concentration and contemplation.

“Our ability to interpret text, to make the rich mental connections that form when we read deeply and without distraction, is what often gets shortchanged by internet grazing,” noted technology writer Nicholas Carr in a prescient 2008 Atlantic article, “Is Google Making Us Stupid?”

Source: www.forbes.com/sites/robertbtucker/2025/06/20/is-chatgpt-making-us-stupid

 

Hi, I come with the perspective of someone old enough to have seen the world before and after the internet became a public tool. As someone who has spent thousands plus hours of his life utilizing the part of his brain to generate "Solutions" to “Work-related issues in a corporate environment", I find this tool to be both revolutionary (not as a marketing keyword) and groundbreaking in a time-managing sense. Outside of that aspect, I have very little to say. In my opinion, LLMs are just as disruptive as any other tool that came with the invention of the personal computer.

Every industry has a mundane, boring side of it, even music! The biz is really nothing but MS Outlook, or whatever email tool you use internally, and a few file-sharing sites/servers. Every department is ran like that, even the creative side, and AI is optimizing all this stuff. Before it was handwritten everything and manually typed letters, then came the email and broke the typewriter industry, but the process of professional work interactions and training hasn't changed. If you are a manager, your workforce needs this, and/or if you run a business, instead of spending your time on an email, you can have your employees focus on creativity and other ways to benefit your biz, but that's up to us collectively to decide. Yes, it is disruptive, but so it was the iPhone and before that the BlackBerry and the PDA. As a biz, in a corporate capitalist world, the harsh reality is that you can't stop innovating; your competition will leave you behind.

Why use all of your mental creative/critical thinking energy on a JOB when you can have GPT whatever do it for you? You have to make money to sustain yourself. The corporate capitalistic ladder isn’t going away and human-made art isn’t going away either, so I personally refuse to use my brain to type emails about stupid business problems. Instead, I want to optimize my brain and stress it as little as possible so that I can become more calm and collective and less anxious. I use these tools to my own advantage and I've gained about 3-4 hours of my day to work/think about other stuff and music.

I want to be the best and most intuitive artist I can be, so I want to spend all my time “thinking" about art, not work. If anything, we should all become better prompters at whatever it is that we do to sustain ourselves and optimize our time. I truly do fear for those who choose to forget basic critical thinking and use this tool to replace it. It is unfortunate. Most of us live on our phones, but I don’t. I don't care about the brain rot, I don't care about the socials, the perception, or the rush to be the “first" to be in the viral moment. I’m slowing my relationship with the internet for entertainment and I'm able to step in and out of the digital realm with ease.

I detest the idea of using LLMs for art. After trying it, it felt cheap, but that's because I know the real process it takes to do it, but it is too late for us as a collective. We human beings have chosen to de-evolve when it comes to art. We've chosen the shortest route to instant gratification and satisfaction, eliminating the need for “the process",“the 10k Hours",“the Frustrations“. A simpleton can't understand the amount of times a creative dwells with the idea to quit it all because their “art isn't good enough", and an LLM can’t teach you that. That's why I just keep going. That ish does not face me, but it does inspire me to write a quick essay comment on a music forum lol.

 

That's an interesting perspective - using AI in a beneficial way so that ones system is less stressed out. Seems like a positive view on this technology. I guess the difficulty then lies in not giving in to the temptation to also use AI for those things that don't really stress you out, so that the nerves in the brain still get some 'work out'?

 

I'm slowly encountering more and more instances of being in random groups of people with almost everyone looking at their phones, while I was one of the few that was not. I've crossed eyes with people who also weren't completely zoned in on their screens, and we all just smirk at it all from a distance. What a true dystopia! It does suck to be too self-aware, doesn't it?

 

It is as simple as looking at it from a time transactional perspective. I don't live from the music I make, yet, so while I have to deal with the corporate world and many of the things I mentioned in my previous comment, I hate having to utilize my limited brain capacity in the complexities of a transactional interaction at a job. I'm not slow quitting, but I'm not loyal to a corporation. If I’m at work, I’m making money for somebody else mostly, and to take care of my bills, I'm an asset, so I know my worth. Like any desk job, I also know that 150 email responses a day can cause carpal tunnel, so it is all about knowing your worth. My fingers were better made for playing keys... not typing, lol.

 

Not making use of your brain and its critical thinking faculties leads to intellectual and mental stagnation.
This is universally true, and not uniquely related to LLMs.

 

ChatGPT (and AI in general) is making you stupid!

That's just not true, ask chatGPT itself.

Spoiler: chatGPT

I can't make you stupid, relax moron.

 

And all that happened. Not sure about an "innate sense of direction", but the ability to read maps, which can save one's life, has drastically reduced.

 

The problem today is that people think there is a shortcut to wisdom.
But you don't become wise by using Chat GPT and babbles his answers. It just seems that way to people who don't know that you're cheating.
You can only gain real knowledge and wisdom through lifelong learning by your own. The is no shortcut. It's the same with musical instruments of cours.

p.s.:
What I noticed with ChatGPT is that as soon as the AI doesn't know a valid answer, it starts lying. Test: Take a very specific area of knowledge about which there is very little information available on the web. The AI never admits to not knowing something, it starts to fantasize.

p.p.s.: as with all tools, it is important to know how to handle.
A drilling machine that the user handles by the chuck can also be dangerous.

 

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Something too I think that muddies the waters... some people seem to conflate ChatGPT (the specific product) with the application of GPTs (the specific type of LLM) in industry. ChatGPT is a specific implementation of GPT which is a subset of LLM. Its a product, not the (entire) technology itself. A GPT can be a good choice of frontend for a more pure analytic system as it doesn't require anything special from the user to interact with it (beyond program specific commands).

There are things it can and will be very good at that (in theory) should bring about positive change like speeding up data verification stages in research, giving 'the little guy' a better chance in legal venues versus the goliaths by greatly enhancing what one person can reference, pull and digest from lexusnexis in minimal time, alert health care providers about potential rare diagnosis after patient still presents after x,y,z treatments over time, etc. But those are very niche systems wholly unrelated to the product ChatGPT and almost certainly are not using public at large data for anything remotely vital in it's fucntion.

ChatGPT isn't ever going to be the one doing that. ChatGPT is to socially advancing LLMs as Candy Crush is to harnessing the computational power of SETI.

 

I use LLM assistants as glorified autocompletes, but nothing more really. Because I don't trust the outputs it gives when creating something new.

It's fine for that but I'm not gonna pay for that for personal use. Some jobs have had that on offer when investigating their usability, but the results were fairly inconclusive. Sometimes it creates good code, but sometimes the output is just plain wrong. So I think the recent analysis that it actually slows programmers down might be onto something.

But creating something like music, pictures, or text? Where's the fun in that?