advice for singing better?

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  1. macros mk2

    macros mk2 Rock Star

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    Yo guys, so I've been TRYING to sing more on tracks, I'm not that great. I'm a mailman so I have plenty of time walking around by myself, I figure I should start trying to practice at work. Does anyone have any good recommendations for like vocal tutorial stuff? Either names of things that can be found on sister site (NOT ASKING FOR LINKS) or good youtube channels on the subject?

    I realize I should probably get lessons to level up but I'm broke. And an introverted cave dweller. Here is a song I sang on as an example of where I'm at, probably my best effort so far. Not saying a ton lol, although im ok with the song.


    I'm making electronic tunes, got melodyne and metatune and not afraid to abuse them. But turns out you still have to sing decently for them to work well. Shit!

    Also any tips on eqing my voice I would be more than happy to hear, im always just kinda guessing it feels like. Thanks much!
     
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  3. PulseWave

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    Sing, sing, sing, sing along to your favorite songs as often as possible. Try singing in the elevator, at work in the shower. You need more practice, not more theory. Every child can sing, and later they wither away because they aren't encouraged.

    Your voice develops with more practice, i.e., the hours you spend singing, your brain learns and then stores it. So practice more and sing more often, half an hour every day, and after half a year you'll be singing much better and more consistently, and hitting the notes better. You'll then discover for yourself what your vocal range is. Have fun and keep at it, and don't give up right away.

    https://www.waves.com/plugins/vocal...id-view|paging:currentPage=0|paging:number=18
     
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  4. sevente

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    I've downloaded a lot of vocal stuff from the sister site but one of the best resources I've found is Aussie Vocal Coach on YouTube - I've been using his bari-tenor and tenor vocal warmups/workouts daily for a week or so and have noticed an improvement in my voice even in that short time. Definitely more of a vocal cord workout than the exercises I was using previously.

    Not saying there's not good stuff on the sister site but a lot of it is big courses - the AVC stuff is straight to the point, useful and free. The exercises are marked with chapters so you can find or repeat stuff as needed, and if you download it you can use LosslessCut to create individual files - which makes it easier for me in the car.
     
  5. Grape Ape

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    idk about tutorials but i can sing very well and have been singing for majority of my life, ive also given others (mostly kids) vocal lessons. there is some truth in what Pulsewave is saying tho, its gonna take time and practice to get better, its learning an instrument. there are fundamentals you should practice though

    I. id suggest to start with learning the major scale and everyday practice singing:

    do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti-do, (up the scale) and do-ti-la-so-fa-mi-re-do (down)
    if you have a piano (or software) or guitar, sing the notes in that scale (without headphones so you can hear yourself) using those words in different keys to understand your range; but also: it will help train your ear and vocal chords to the intervals between notes. the words specifically help with training pronunciation while singing and understanding your chest (low) and head (high) voice

    II. breathing from your diaphragm is also important in having control over your voice, projecting it and taking care of your vocal chords, you can find that info anywhere. practice inhaling from your diaphragm before you start singing and between phrases - from just being alive you can practice constantly breathing through your diaphragm till its like second nature for your body

    III. singing acappella (without music) is also important, in the shower, during your route, whatever - a lot of the time beginners will just mimic the singer of the song their listening too, rather than harmonizing with their own voice. acapella singing will help a lot in understanding how to use your voice, its strengths and weaknesses. sing songs you love without the singer, record yourself on your phone, playback will help you see where you can improve over time

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    practicing those fundamentals will be the most beneficial for you currently and over time youll see progress as you apply that as well as practice. im sure any good tutorial will tell you similar because it is what it is
     
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  6. Zenarcist

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    Have you tried singing this song when you are out and about?

     
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  7. boomoperator

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    I feel you could possibly work on your breathing technique. Your voice is good, but could be more consistent in terms of energy.
    Processing-wise: try another de-esser, or dial it in a little more careful.
    Recently a course for singers and performers got available on Udemy by a German singer and osteopath. It's only 12 bucks, she also has another course over there. The last course is also available on the sisters'..
    https://www.udemy.com/course/balance-your-voice/?couponCode=MT40825#instructor-1
     
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    Ok, here's my tip. Open your DAW and sing into a mic with headphones on, and add some reverb/delay, etc. You should be able to adjust your vocal technique into something that sounds pretty good, and don't forget to have a couple of beers to loosen up.
     
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  9. Sarastro

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    First of all: You have a nice voice!

    If you want to beautify the sound of your voice try to sing without any tensions in your throat/neck/face.
    Open the whole room as wide as possible, but try to open your mouth/lips as round as possible, not broad as a frog.
    That will help you to avoid tensions and make the timbre more nice and soft.
    Then try to produce the tone outside of you, in front of your lips.

    All this may help you to beautify your tone...

    I'm an opera singer and voice teacher...it's a long way to become a singer, but these are only a couple of short tips.
     
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  10. The Dude

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    Use a tuner (app) to improve pitch when practicing intervals and singing?
     
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  11. tongsong

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    learning an instrument will help a lot
     
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  12. robie

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    John Prine, frequently referred to as one of the great American singer/songwriters, began as a mailman. Doesn't matter where you start, its where you land that counts.:) When Prine passed away during Covid, his obituary was on the front page of The New York Times. Not bad for a guy that started out delivering your phone bills.

    There's been plenty of singers who didn't have the greatest natural talent, but when matched with great songs they had something significant to offer. Dylan, Prine, Leonard Cohen (there are tons...) immediately come to mind. I get the feeling listening to your tune, and reading what you have to say, that where you are struggling is with confidence. The cure for that is to sing out, sing loud, and to drop the "cave dweller" stuff and sing in front of people. When matched with great material, lapses in singing aren't noticed quite as much as you may think.

    I've been singing professionally since I was 5 years old, when I first sang on a religious-oriented TV show. Been doing it my whole life. I could recommend all sorts of lessons, teachers, web courses, but in the end what I think will really count for you is to let go of the fear and self-consciousness, and just get out and sing like you mean it. When matched with material that has something to say, you'll be amazed at how much people don't hear the lapses, and instead focus on the plusses of what you have to offer.

    Good luck with your work. I hope you get where you want to go.
     
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  13. boingy99

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    Practice, practice, practice. It doesn't really matter what you sing. Formal teachers will have you singing scales and vowel sounds, which gets tedious fast so may put you off. So do a bit of that and sing your favourite songs. Regularly record yourself raw singing the same song and check it for timing and tuning.

    And I have a leftfield suggestion for your particular voice. Try singing an octave higher. You'll hate it at first but stick with it and you might find "another" voice.
     
  14. lejules

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    Hi! Professional singer here. Excited to hear you wanting to undergo this new journey of THE VOICE

    I swear by the works of this wonderful human:
    https://www.youtube.com/@JeffRolka/videos

    You will learn how to master pitch, breath control, vowel balance in a fun way.

    When practising, pick your voice type (baritone/baritenor) and the skill level for the warm-up of your day.
    Gentle -> Daily -> Full

    Like so:
    Gentle Singing and Body Warm Up Baritenor

    Best thing to do, would be to schedule in 5 singing lessons with a local teacher, run through the warm-ups with him (to identify potential pitfalls) and then get practising on your own. And then maybe come back for another lesson in a few weeks or months, when needed. The teacher will also help you identify and pick the right key for your songs. There are 12 keys a song can be sung in and there are only 1 or 2 you will sound at your best.

    Other than that: Practice is the only way.

    Good luck!
     
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    From listening to your very good introspective song my takeaway for a thing to practice on your own is hitting intervals without sliding into them. It's an important part of singing, and since you have hours a day driving and walking your route you could do that in a chunks of time during your day.

    The best way as others have already mentioned is to follow the directions to Carnegie Hall...so...

    How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

    Practice, practice, practice.

     
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    you can look up breathing, speaking exercises. Sing scales (with or without audio playing), resonance exercises are also cool.
    I made a little plan lots of months ago and since then i shadow sung everyday and the normal exercises every like 3-4days in average.

    Or you just want to sing something, dada and then try to make a melody out of it?

    I am also not a good singer, but every day seems to improve and the side effect is that -- i really like trying around, just singing gibberish or just normal sentences. Its fun ...
     
  17. Baxter

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    You said it, man - practice!
    And don't overcompress and distort your tracks/mixes.
     
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    Take mushrooms.
     
  19. macros mk2

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    Wow thanks for all the great advice everyone! Just starting the route for the day, gonna be practicing as much as I can. I guess that's the "secret" eh? And some other techniques, ive bookmarked this for future reference. Might as well use this time for something productive.
     
  20. Somnambulist

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    At the risk of spawning what is almost a cliche, it is nonetheless, proven as being pretty much true in every discipline.
    "The more you work at something, the better you get at it".
    I know that may not be what you wanted to hear, but it is true.
     
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