Spotify goes fake mode

500K monthly listeners.

is Velvet Sundown band real or AI?

 

Last edited: Jul 5, 2025

without paying for fake promo and so called "playlist curators", it is impossible to reach that amount of listeners on spotify for an unknown / new music band (even if your music is good, ai or not)

 

Last edited: Jul 3, 2025

I wish I was in an AI band.

 

We should flood Spotify with AI music.

 

This is Al music and it's absolutely amazing. Whoever created AI Green has talent.

 

Real or AI?

Heres your answer.... when are they touring?

 

AI is slowly invading everything. Only judges and prosecutors can change or stop it.

 

The resemblance

 

judges and prosecutors are already invaded by AI

 

yea just like Gorillaz and Daft Punk were totally legit years back?

 

Velvet Sundown is the warmup act for Hatsune Miku.

 

This could be a way for Spotify to funnel the money back to themselves...

I remember seeing the artists in Lo-Fi playlists and similar places that just round back to Spotify affiliated record labels etc. with AI it's the same thing but x100.

 

yea, looks like Spotify is actually also deploying fake listeners to funnel most money back to themselves, it's pathetic

 

I can see Spotify eventually incorporating music gen to their platform to provide personalised playlists of music based on what you like. They tested the waters with that personalised AI generated podcast in the annual Spotify Wrapped.

Regarding using these services to create fake music and pass it off as real people... unfortunately some of my colleagues who are well accomplished musicians jumped on the chance to do this last year. I was being sent ep's and full albums of music and being lied to that it was real. I keep up with the tech so I spotted it immediately and called them out, but they tried to rationalise it in the most delusional ways similar to the thread of the person here who said they're using it to generate album demos for an artist.
One of them has been generating hundreds of tracks and passing them off as real to sync companies. The other set up multiple labels and is generating full artist profiles similar to this band, uploading to streaming platforms, selling on bandcamp and sending them out to our mailing list of high profile industry pros, dj's etc. One of his friends is doing the same with the addition of the youtube grift where they have hours long videos of music in a certain style from a certain era.

Times are extremely difficult on multiple levels of life, so I could probably rationalise it if they just admitted that their ethical framework has moved to a "by any means necessary" mentality, but the lies and the idea that they thought I and others wouldn't be able to spot it immediately is so insulting it's ended our relationships.

I accept this tech opens the door to the unscrupulous amongst us, but nothing in my nearly 30 years of music production has disappointed me more than seeing otherwise good people capitulate on their moral and ethical standards. This is a prime example of the turkeys always voting for christmas.

 

Thanks @ClarSum for your insider information on the current situation!
The only thing that can help is the rule of law, creating publicity, and filing complaints.

 

They been doin that for many years like with owning Distrokid charging money, fees and % for distribution and not advertising it on the website telling people about it. its deceiving and criminal af. they also engage in backscratching with politicians, getting political favors while in office and then awarding podcasts in the tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars to those people once out of office (see those shady af Obamas for just one example). then look at all the big names who said they removed all their music, but then didnt, obviously paid off. the whole company is a fucking scam, so fake artists, bands and music, click farm fixing the streaming numbers for paydays for themselves and the major label cronies, and then this whole war weapons company they own, is it really a surprise to anyone!!!!??? Artists, musicians, even music fans need to fucking wake up already to what this company has done and continues to do to society on a global basis

 

I took the liberty of copying a short text from a passage so that we have some evidence:

AI Music on Spotify: This Band Doesn't Exist

AI-generated music has already made it into the charts in Germany – on Spotify, songs without human interaction make up an increasingly large portion. Distinguishing between real and fake is becoming increasingly difficult.

Imagine this: You're scrolling through your automatically generated Spotify playlists and come across a new artist, for example, the piano player "Join Hiddleston." You search for more information – and find nothing. No Instagram profile, no website, no tour dates. Now there are two possibilities: Either you've discovered an artist who is willing to reveal very little about themselves. Or: The artist doesn't actually exist.
In the case of "Join Hiddleston," the latter is likely true. Because more and more alleged artists on Spotify don't actually exist – AI song tools make it possible.

This article first appeared on BR24 on January 7, 2025. The topic is still relevant. Therefore, we have republished this article.
www.br.de/nachrichten/netzwelt/ki-musik-bei-spotify-band-existiert-nicht,UZ5lrvN

 

Evidence Part 2:

Spotify: Incredibly popular music disappears, artist faces jail

Thanks to software based on artificial intelligence, new songs can be created with just a few clicks. One man produced hundreds of thousands of songs, which he then uploaded to Spotify and other platforms. They have been listened to millions of times. But now the artist faces jail time.

The possibilities of applications that utilize artificial intelligence (AI) are inspiring the world. A few words are enough to coax the most astonishing works of art from an image generator. Other apps generate musical works that won't fall on deaf ears even with a larger audience.

And if they do, you can still rely on technical assistance – and at least earn a few pennies on Spotify. That's what an American musician from North Carolina thought, at least. Now he's facing charges of fraud, conspiracy, and money laundering in a New York court, as Forbes reports.

Spotify & Co. cheated out of more than $3,000 a day

The man identified as Smith is said to have generated hundreds of thousands of songs using AI since 2017 and uploaded them to music streaming platforms such as Amazon, Apple, Google, and Spotify. Even the names of the alleged artists and the titles of the songs were randomly generated alphabetically. Artists such as Calliope Bloom, Callous Humane, and Calvinistic Dust were assigned titles such as Zygotic Lanie, Zygotic Washstands, and Zyme Bedewing.

Bots were then developed to access the created works. The platforms pay their artists a fee for each click, so that over this comparatively long period, a respectable sum of around $10 million is said to have been collected. Some of the bots are said to have accessed up to 661,440 streams per day. According to the lawsuit, each stream earned half a US cent. This meant that up to $3,307.20 could be earned per day, as Forbes reports.

The monthly revenue is said to have amounted to $99,216, or around $1.2 million annually. Investigators believe Smith was not a lone perpetrator. It is believed that other accomplices were involved in the fraud. The circle of suspects also includes the CEO of the software company that developed the music software used.

www.inside-digital.de/news/spotify-unglaublich-beliebte-musik-verschwindet-kuenstler-droht-knast

 

Nick Hustles is another AI artist on Spotify. He was there before Velvet Sundown. I must admit they nailed the 70's R&B/Funk/Soul sound.

The song titles and lyrics are ridiculous.

 

And predictably Beato tried it himself. The more you know about music and production the closer you can get these systems to be indistinguishable...that's certainly the case with the people I mentioned in my last comment. Wild times.