AI is so variable one month you can generate a string of hits, the next two months you get complete dogwater.

 

AI is so variable that you can get a bunch of hits one month and create complete confusion the next two.
Our job will be to disbelieve every piece of text created by AI, to verify its veracity, or simply ignore it.

Which source will continue to report to us reliably? The first victims are already social media, with its gullible users.
There will be a massive increase in fakes, and criminals are already using AI to commit fraud and do business.

 

I’ve tested Suno recently for a project, but the control was almost non existent, and the output was so rough sonically that it would’ve required a full rebuild in my DAW. So for now, I’m ignoring AI music generation. Until the audio output improves and there’s an option for direct training I’ll pass.

On the art side, I’ve been running a few Stable Diffusion concept pipelines with some LoRAs I trained earlier this spring that I’m pretty happy with. Lately though, I’ve been using MidJourney and Kling with trained style references to explore cinematic and narrative concepts.

Interestingly, the best results don’t come from training or prompts referencing actual films or other artists’ work. I tend to get stronger, more original style and scene results when I lean into randomness. I’ll train it on real-world inspiration - photos of interesting lighting situations or industrial machinery etc - or my own AI outputs, and let it explore.

For me, directly copying someone else’s creative work tends to result in mediocre output and not a practice I support.

If you think like a designer or art director - someone who understands how real-life references shape visual style - and treat it that way, it starts combining those elements in more surprising and creative ways. That’s when the innovative weirdness starts to appear.

 

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Sound designers: the last stand!

 

Yes, if there's the right pandemics on the news.

 

This is AI. People in the comments are praising him and so a person that probably has no clue about music production is earning money fast and he can generate a ton of these. Disgusting.

 

you are*

 

AI's effect on music is the same as fast food's effect on restaurants, ie. continually average what's available until Joe Shmoe is left with a grand choice of 4.76 flavours of sugar-infused trash optimised for broadest appeal.

One does not become more creative by continually taking the average of a genre and injecting it back into one's own works. One only becomes unremarkably average.

I'm not saying this is terribly offensive because music is some form of sacred high art, but it sure as all hell makes another fun aspect of life bleak as fuck.

 

Musicians are a dying breed. Producers will going on... they are specializing in the cut&paste works (it's not a criticism but a state of what music is becoming)... where I live all the modern "singers" (if you can call them so..."artists" would be really too much and offensive for the previous generations) look and sound the same.

 

To be honest, the lack of innovation and terrible quality of popular music is a corporate/streaming/phone issue that has been growing for a long time. A lot of recent pop, rock and dance was cynical, boring and derivative long before AI arrived. Many greedy musicians are also to blame for helping this situation get worse.

Personally, post 2000 has been a dark time for many creative mediums, all due to tight corporate control of distribution and media. I'm loathed to point fingers but millennials and Z's rabid adoption and worship of any technology thrown at them let corporations hypnotise them. The engine of art - authentic grass roots creative culture was slyly replaced by commercial digital trends, and until that's switched back were stuck with recycled crap everywhere.

But there's a lot of amazing talent and beautiful new music out there bubbling under the surface. People in every generation have seen through this switch, they know what's missing, its not grumpy old men shouting at clouds. This is a battleground. People are creating all the time outside of the dominant corporate space.

 

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If those vocals are AI I have to admit I'm rather impressed. Beyond that, yeah, it's cute but probably anybody here could have knocked that general idea together in 15 minutes and noone would have stretched it out to five long songs worth of pointlessness.

 

I believe some kind of major grunge or punk revolution is coming our way in the coming years.

Even before AI was constantly being shoved down our throats everything had become so overproduced to the point that all humanity is squeezed out.

It's impressive how skilled producers have become, the standard nowadays is insane. But they so often forget the most important thing: emotion

I'm not worried about AI at all. Hundreds or even thousands of years from now, well after man and machine have merged, there will still be kids playing punk rock in their parents garage with old beat up instruments. And there will always be a demand for it.

 

I'm pretty certain that this is the time when AI is being spoon fed to the masses in order for the general population to acclimate to the new paradigm. AI isn't playing it's best...yet. All technology is developed for military use, hell, that was the internet's first call, to keep command and control available in a multidimensional way where there was no real head to cut off. With AI help those that wish to collate behavior into algorithm can track your every movement moment by moment, find you in a crowd by your gait (how you walk) and of course by intricate facial recognition, know where you shop and what you buy, who your friends are and their friends and their friends, see what you are watching for entertainment...etc...all from the goodness of their hearts. Stringing us along like frogs in a pot on a stove until it's hot enough to boil us alive seems an apt analogy.

 

hmm AI probably isn't a secret conspiracy, seems like classic naked greed. If someone wanted the tech integrated in a smart stealth like manner, its not that hard. An ugly corporate AI race and a desperate investment bubble definitely wouldn't be needed. The corporate AI rollout has been pretty bad - half the planet already hates and distrusts AI within 2 years.

LLM's could have just been a piece of coding tech integrated everywhere very quietly. That was how the data economy was initially established - quietly in the background.

anyways, thought this was relevant to this discussion

BUT spotting AI content isnt that hard once you deal with it for a bit. You definitely don't need stems tests. This video highlights some pretty obvious AI work that can be spotted in seconds.

AI text has a very specific descriptive voice. This is a perfect example.

Thats terrible AI band art, anyone can tell. Most AI art has many instant tells - though you can navigate around them pretty well, I could trick most people if i sweat over it a little.

AI music has many tells - some musical (weird phrasing, timing and note choices popped up right away) and many production based (artifacting everywhere, muddy ugly production, piss poor stereo instrument placement)

Drugs might make it even easier, early low bit rate MP3 encoding sounds terrible on acid and e. 'dead, hollow and crispy' came to mind a lot. Where as traditional analog cassettes were always quite pleasant tripping.

I bet AI music sounds horrible on drugs.

 

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There have been fads and technology that always went back. Humans are silly. Digital got big in the 80s and everyone sold their analog gear, now nearly every second person wants it back.
You'd think humans learned, by all means bring in the new, but keep the old too. No, get rid of the whole fricking lot. This time, it is moving WAY faster, some say too fast, so returning to what they lose may not be an option.

 

If we are dying we breed more!

 

Every time I hear the corporate oversell of LLMs (sexed-up as "AI" because, well, it sounds more impressive...), it reminds me of both the extraordinary Sinclair marketing guff that, armed with your ZX80 you could use it to run a power station **:



... and of course South Park's "Funnybot":

All tools have their uses, the trick i think is to not allow yourself to be turned into one through social engineering.

( **Technically, you could, though i don't think it'd be a reliable solution in a critical real world situation )

 

Ai band gets half a million users on spotify in 4 weeks.

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/...unknowingly-grooving-to-an-ai-generated-band/

 

To make that absurd statement, you obviously, as most of US have, forgotten what you truly are at the Core. Mission accomplished says the Deceiver...