in the light of recent releases ob sister site thanks to all involved, mostly there are arm including the newfangled, can we expect intel mac ilok plugins too?

and also whats the future is this gonna happen for others
curious so i can take m1 mac next year maybe and use hackintosh as windows machine

 

Every release from hidera (and there were a lot last week) are intel. Only Guiseppe (and god bless them) were bringing ARM only, sometimes as a doublon like the Metric Halo bundle if I remember correctly. the strymon suite, eventide and blahblahblah are for intel.

 

You are correct. The Elevate Bundle is the only release which is even listed as ARM only, besides those already released for both. Slate Fresh Air might be, or it just runs on the newer versions of MacOS. It crashes Mojave.

People need to show some patience. Many of the Intel versions were done over a good period of time and required work for every one. They did not just happen all at once, even though it might appear like that because that's how they were released.

 

Agreed! sometimes the entitlement on both sites blows my mind. So much whining and complaining. Be grateful for what you get, and if you need something, buy it.

At the same time, i understand people get excited and get their hopes up, and not everyone is being ungrateful or whiny, just a general trend ive noticed. Not just on our two beloved sites, but honestly in society as a whole.

 

im patient and grateful for hidera, flare also Guiseppe and others no matter if its windows or mac. im patient enough but curious to see if its gonna heppen for time being i cant move from intel to arm just because that also

 

Since Tahoe is the last macOS to support Intel, it makes sense they aren’t cracking Intel versions of the plugins anymore.

 

Makes sense to who, for whom?

Doesn't make sense IRL. Out here, in the real world, musicians stick with their machines for far longer than soccer moms do their pool boys. Upgrading is such a labor intensive, stressful, and frankly obstacle ridden enterprise, that most of us don't do it: we wait it out, then buy a new machine, and slowly phase it in, as slowly as the previous one is being phased out.

So regardless of Apple's software dev and marketing/branding decisions, the majority of us musicians don't actually abandon ship or throw out our older (Intel) machines out to pasture that quickly. In our case, those machines are spec'ed professionally (maxed out in most cases), and they should keep on running for many years post deprecation or 'obsolescence.'

So no: it doesn't make sense - but I'm not one to complain. Whatever happens, happens.

 

You're right, most musicians don't upgrade often. People hang onto their Intel Macs for years, especially if they’re fully specced and everything works.
in fact, a ton of cracked plugin users are still on mojave, catalina, or big sur not because they want to be, but because their setup works and changing anything risks breaking the entire flow.

But from a cracking team’s side, keeping Intel support can be a hassle. For Teams doing U2B versions takes extra time, tools, and effort.

It's not about ignoring Intel users, it's just limited time and shifting focus.

 

Apple is planning to get rid of Rosetta 2. So macOS Tahoe will be the very last OS with Intel support.

 

ARM processors will slowly creep in this year, but seriously next year (2026) to PC platform, too. AMD and Nvidia are preparing their very interesting, powerful, and nicely power efficient ARM CPUs this year. Watch Computex 2025.
Things will get far more serious next year when they release them. The future is armed for ARM.

These x86 CPUs we use and buy are some of the last x86 CPUs. Of course, things won't happen overnight. It'll take quite a few years as lots of people will continue to use x86 CPUs for years to come.

p.s. Windows and Mac users don't need to worry that much as they can install Linux on their ARM computers and run x86 Windows programs with WINE. Time to go Linux? (you can also run old as fuck 32-bit plugins btw) WINE 10 can run x86 code with a little help of new x86>ARM emulation layer. So WINE (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is finally emulating something. Maybe change of name is in order?

 

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It is a limited time window. A race between 2 "teams", with one trying to use something they have discovered; and one trying to fix it before they can get any more. Intel versions can wait, because those will not get fixed first.

 

Maybe it makes sense to you, but it does not to many serious, accredited developers, who continue to guarantee dual compatibility.

 

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Yes, AMD, Intel and NViDIA will do their own ARM chips.
Worst part: Three different chips = three different software compatibilities.
It will be a huge mess!

 

Maybe you could create a complaint at the Better Business Bureau about this outrage.

 

As an intel user… I feel neglected

 

Can you elaborate a bit more what you mean? Because if that's true then AMD and Intel processors couldn't run the same x86 OS, too. You know what I mean? It's just a matter of writing good drivers. I've heard that Nvidia has problems with writing drivers for Windows ARM. For now.

 

You are so polite. Apple dropped Nvidia support so long ago, the idea of going back to them is fantasyland.

 

The compatibility of software is different. A software will run on an Intel-ARM, but not on an AMD or a NVIDIA ARM chip.
Don't be confused, I'm talking about ARM chips for Windows.

 

I actually find Rosetta mode more stable.

 

How often do you remove the intel slice before testing?