Trust Issues with Presonus/Fender Studio One

Discussion in 'Studio One' started by blinkitspenguin, Jun 8, 2025 at 7:13 AM.

  1. PulseWave

    PulseWave Platinum Record

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    Audient iD4 MKII and iD14 MKII - Audio Interface Review

    https://audient.com/products/audio-interfaces/id4/overview/
    https://audient.com/products/audio-interfaces/id14/overview/

    Interface Buffer Size Total Latency (ms)
    Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 64 samples ~6-7 ms
    Audient iD14 64 samples ~4-5 ms [217 EUR]
    RME Babyface Pro 64 samples ~3 ms [745 €]

    Audient iD14 MKII www.thomann.de/de/audient_id14_mkii.htm
     
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  2. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    if you are not going to switch to an interface with external hardware based dsp, an interface is not going to change much, if anything. If you are running that Focusrite software on a Mac, it is not great. But if it is already working for you in other DAWs, it's not your problem either. I've never heard of a specific DAW have an issue with a interface driver that does not show up in other DAW. That is because this is all handled by Apple Core Audio on a Mac, or by the driver communicating with Windows.

    Studio One is basically Cubase, for purposes of this kind of topic. If you are having a latency issue recording vocals in one of them; the answer is really simple. Don't track vocals in that DAW. If you want to put up with some bloat for extra features, use them to produce and mix. Track in another DAW you do not have a latency problem in. Logic, REAPER, Protools, or whatever you find works fine with your setup.

    Bounce your mix to wave, load it into the "tracking DAW"; and track the vocals. Bring the files back into your DAW with your real session project.
    Mix in Studio One.

    No vocalist (who you are dealing with) is ever going to tell you to change your mix by anything more than what they are hearing. Gain and EQ, if even that much. Even if they were to want you to do something drastic, stick Acon Digital Remix and Acon Remix Drums on the track with your mixed down file. You aren't going to render that again anyway. Lift the vocal into the other DAW and you are done. They will not care. Most "vocalists" you are recording are only one step removed from a karaoke bar anyway.
     
  3. Somnambulist

    Somnambulist Audiosexual

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    The DAWS in some cases are becoming like pop music now, instead of tailoring towards engineers, they are tailoring to the masses.

    If people look at music history, the FUNNY part until now, is studios never had anything to do with radio stations unless they were affiliated or owned by a radio station which was not the majority. They were affiliated with record labels, were independents, or owned by name musicians because most people could not afford well over $100,000 to set up a studio. The dollar wage was WAY less until now.

    NOW - everyone can afford it, get a free version of Reaper and people record their own music. The radio stations while still on the airwaves, are mostly on The Internet and people tailor more towards the streaming faves and 'look at me' crowd.

    DAWs and STUDIOS used to be dedicated towards recording and engineers. Now it has incorporated so many popular trends, and tailored towards people who are bedroom musicians and teenagers, the entire area is very grey. People these days want something for nothing and do not get they are receiving next to nothing for something.
     
  4. blinkitspenguin

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    I appreciate the tips! But don't you think, you shouldn't use those harsh words. (quoted above) I want to maintain my privacy otherwise I would've shown you the work that I did so far in 7 years. Currently I'm 24, I started when I was 16 while I was in school. When I was 19, I worked on a mixing project for a big label which was 7th most subscribed. It's Zee Music Company. It was a ballad type of song.

    Also I worked with rappers who got like few million views on their social media combined. Few of them where signed. Also many of the beats I produced for rappers was later bought by a company which a rapper auditioned.

    Did all the savings possible. Didn't even spent on new clothes for a year.

    Now, I am transitioning from working for people to working for myself aiming to become an artist myself.

    I really don't want to leak my privacy, otherwise I would've shared my work. It's your decision to believe it or not but God knows what's up.

    Thank you!
     
  5. ItsFine

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    Once again : if you HEAR latency, it is more than 30ms
    So the soundcard, even at 64 samples, is NOT the culprit.

    It is your audio chain (plugins, not set to ASIO, wrong DAW setting ...).

    Ok i'm out now ... good luck
     
  6. Melodic Reality

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    Maybe get Quantum 2626 and forget about interfaces for a while, they probably cut some corners on ES2, just skip it altogether, there's number of folks on here that rock 2626, maybe they can give you more insights about it. :thumbsup:
     
  7. Plendix

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    Steinberg sais they're not gonna introduce subscription models in the foreseeable future.
    They say they know people hate it and that they're not fans of subscription themselves.
    I like that approach. I was more than upset when Avid started it's Pro Tools fee (have they been the first in the business or was that Adobe? ). And we dont have to talk about adobe. How predatory can a company be to have people subscribe to their software while training an AI on their customers art.
    I don't see a very positive future for studio one, and that's sad. Fender is not the company it has been and can't be compared to yamaha. Yamaha is a huge corporation with deep pockets. They don't need to use a DAW as a cash cow. They use it to sum up their portfolio. Which is a good fit for yamahas live and studio equipment. But Fender? Bundling a Strat with studio one? I'm not even sure Fender knows what a gem they got on their hand. I guess for them it's 'that software people seem to like that is some sort of fancy garage band.' And making the coders create some app shows their priorities. It's sad. That's why we can't have nice things.
     
  8. PulseWave

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    Just wait and see. They both have a lot of know-how, know the market very well, and will surely invent things they can sell. They only make money if they do their job well. Remember: Consumers will only buy products they need or that are useful! They will certainly keep Studio One stable and improve it, because otherwise, users or future users will go to the competition.

    PreSonus Products: Studio One, Notion, Progression, Recording Interfaces, Digital Mixers, Control Surfaces, Loudspeakers

    "After more than 25 years, PreSonus is confident it has found the right partner to support us in our continued growth.
    We're excited to show our current and future users what this opportunity means for them."


    The two manufacturers have not yet revealed what specific changes will result for PreSonus and Fender customers. However, they are talking about a comprehensive "ecosystem" in which hardware and software will be seamlessly integrated to offer customers a seamless user experience. The merger with PreSonus will make this possible. New technologies for online collaboration and the distribution of creative content are also part of the concept.

    What this means in concrete terms, we can only guess at the moment. Will Studio One include official emulations of Fender amps in the future? It's possible, as is a version of the music notation program Notion optimized for guitar. Complete entry-level bundles including a guitar, audio interface, and monitor speakers or headphones are also conceivable. There's also overlap in the PA sector, where Fender's compact Passport systems meet the active speakers of the PreSonus AIR and ULT series. We'll see what the two manufacturers come up with.

    Source: www.gearnews.de/fender-uebernimmt-presonus-nahtloses-ecosystem-fuer-kreative-geplant/
     
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