Family Album...looking at it, reminds a lot...seeing your relatives photos, but never seen them alive, because some photos are shot in the beginning of the last century...then some music idea appears from nowhere, and you put your fingers on the keys...
It took a lot of time and efforts to finish this piano piece:

 

You have to work hard. Composing a real piece and performing it with a piano is one of the hardest things in the world. It requires a lot of everything.

 

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Yes, I already noted this in my post...
and the main reason is the fear of breaking cliches, and different ones at that.
And Chopin helped me overcome them, I have a collection of midi files of different composers, including Chopin...I saw that he can change the meter, tempo, tonality many times during one piece, and this helped me overcome the constraint in breaking the "rules"

 

All those classical composers must have found the rigid old rules suffocating. Like a hacker I abhor state-imposed rules, in music too. Yet I'm continually hunting for songs containing harmonic melodies and vocals to listen to them while doing graphics. But every time I plan to do my own music, I swear to abandon all rules. Like Hendrix played the guitar. I thought he was a junkie, but was humbled to discover he got multiple nervous breakdowns from overwork. Plus he could also sing surprisingly well. :-oOo He couldn't read music! WOW! He didn't want to marry either.

 

You are a quite comfortable player and have skill too. Couple hundred years ago there was a rumor about an ancient mega-piano monster instrument (with a lot more keys, like an organ) that bypassed most if not all musical laws and probably also any basic musical frequency rules as well. The problem with that thing was it was not made for music, but for creating special combined frequency resonant waves to manipulate cellular tissue function in living bodies. As nowadays in nature, there are insects that respond well / attracted to or are repulsed to specific frequencies. You can check out YT videos to which instruments cows and elephants and birds are attracted to.
This ancient mega-piano could change cellular function in living bodies thus was allegedly capable of healing tissues or causing injuries. Its ancient name was Alla Attapan. Imagine the extreme amount of knowledge it required to be played safely. I recently thought about it: what if was given the opportunity just sit down to hit some keys on the thing? But quickly deemed it potentially unsafe for even daring to try to see how it sounds.

 

I say this cautiously because I'm not sure if what I'm saying is true or not. I feel like the piece you wrote is built on unright principles. The principles of music are fixed and cannot be easily broken. Your piece doesn't sound very right to me. Breaking the rules of music demands its own rules. I recommend that you study the rules of music again. Maybe there's no need to break them at all, and everything you need is within the rules.

 

Oh, please...just a couple of examples:
If George Gershwin had strictly adhered to the rules of voice leading, he would never have written Rhapsody in Blue, and if The Beatles had followed the rules, they would not have written Can't Buy Me Love.
PS. As a tag for that piece I added the word "scherzo" to SoundCloud, look at what music critics write about scherzos written by Chopin

 

UNSOLID = Foster = troll. Ignore.

 

Many composers of the 20th century became famous because they created new things. Many of them were unaware of the principles and rules of music and composed songs without knowing those rules. The number of these people is countless, people who became famous for the 20th century's need for innovation. Innovation is a defining characteristic of the 20th century, but many of these innovations have not added anything special to music. Everyone in the 20th century tried to become famous through innovation because the market needed it to sell more. The composers of the previous century are worthy of praise, but their compositions should not be considered a basis for rejecting the principles of music.

 

Now talk about notes

 

just kidding...



Oh fTRoLLster boy, AGAIN: "special" in music is something very subjective. Names like Stravinsky and Schoenberg had profound knowledge of the traditional rules of music and chose to expand the boundaries of what was understood as traditional music without "reinventing the wheel" like all that graphical experimental music. Moreover, returning to more structured styles is not a rejection of innovation but a celebration of musical roots and a way to access intertexts present in collective memories. Finally, the accusation that "the market needed innovation to sell" reduces artistic creation to merely academic commercial interests (in this case, it's been a long time since academia dictated tastes and attitudes). Today, If you want to live composing postmodern music (specially all that experimental music full of graphics, as well as much of the new complexity), you need a job in some university music department (thanks god for this!). Otherwise, au revoir.

 

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And be proud of it.

It is creative. I can hear that you have listened to several piano composers and have sensitivity in your performing. You have a few motifs going and I really liked the light and shade. If you ever chose to redo it there is only one thing I would suggest, and that is to occasionally do a slight pause or rubato, and/or ring the last note like at 00:20secs and 02:29 before the next motif as there is some beauty and darkness in each section that breathes, that for me as someone appreciating this, would be appreciated even more. That said, each interlude stands on its own in my opinion and you linked them well.
I enjoyed it as it is nonetheless

Did it ever really other than to teach and explain what was already out there?
I am not disagreeing with you

 

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Honestly, I think that is a beautiful piece, absolutely well done. It reminded me a lot of John Williams music on Schindlers List in part. It’s not the sort of music I listen to, but I love modern composers and try to compose myself, but when Williams plays piano, it is enchanting, and I got the same feeling from your work. Bravo!

 

Yeah buddy, you're right... But have you seen how many ironic posts this troll has made in the past few days? I always point out his presence so that the moderators pay attention to his unhelpful behavior. Furthermore, if it weren't like this, all his elitist and prejudiced nonsense trolling would remain recorded in the forum without any rebuttal. In the end, he reveals himself as a weak troll who doesn't provide real arguments that enrich discussions (such as practical examples, his own or those of other musicians) to substantiate what he claims. But I must admit, I take great pleasure in countering all the crap trolling he spews here.

 

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I hear you buddy, but I made a promise to a moderator who gave me benefit of doubt not to spam him with FOSTER troll reports, so if you and others have, that should be enough

 

Count on me!

 

Thanks for the advice, but I have rubato all the time throughout the piece, on the other hand, it's not very deep - the tempo changes from 60 bpm to 75, and in Chopin it can be 50 - 200...
but, for now I'll leave it as is, because, because... I just hated this piece, this happens to me when something takes a long time to work on, so I said: "enough", - and uploaded the piece to SoundCloud and now I'm reading the comments...
as I understand, the time was not wasted after all.

 

Thank you for the kind words, and as for John Williams, his soundtrack to Indiana Jones turned me towards cinematic music and inspired me to try something orchestral,
by the way, here is a sketch of the epic theme of mine:

 

Without getting all musicologistic, it's beautiful. Thank you.