Feedback on our new R&B song?

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  1. Kuuhaku

    Kuuhaku Platinum Record

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    Yesterday I just released a song that I've been working on since 2020, and I think that from everything I've ever made this is the best thing so far, I'd love to hear your guys opinions about it ❤️


    or if you prefer Spotify


    Also, I'm so happy that this song made it into a editorial playlist upload_2025-4-12_18-24-59.jpeg

    And I kinda wanted to share this achievment with you guys, this forum has helped me a lot for a long time now and I feel like I own something for this community, even though I may appear not being so much active I've always been using this forum to know more about plugins, choose gear, make mixing decision and much more, so that's also a thanks for this amazing community that AudioZ is.

    (also bellow is the lyrics for anyone who's interested and isn't a Portuguese speaker)


    My night sky is you
    In the early hours, I just wanna see you
    If you come with me, you won’t regret it
    If I go with you, I’ll only be grateful

    If it’s about time,
    you’ve got none to waste
    I know you’re way too far,
    I can’t have you

    With a soul too big
    for me to hold
    Another world—
    but if you won’t fold
    I keep orbiting around you

    To you, I’m Titan
    Or I study you like Cassini

    I orbit you—
    I’m Titan
    I dive into you—
    I’m Cassini

    You hit me so hard
    Like, you know how it is
    You know how it is
    Changing the atmosphere in my room
    While I try to stir your tide
    Try to stir your tide

    Looking in your eyes, it’s obsession
    They’re like nebulas from another dimension
    Getting lost in your world is a temptation
    You pull me in so easily—it’s gravitation

    Knowing I’m this far
    is killing me inside
    Swear I saw your name
    in my birth chart’s sky
    Messing with me seems so normal to you
    But seeing you close feels surreal—it’s true
    So surreal

    You hit me so hard
    Like, you know how it is
    You know how it is
    Changing the atmosphere in my room
    While I try to stir your tide
    Try to stir your tide

    Looking in your eyes, it’s obsession
    They’re like nebulas from another dimension
    Getting lost in your world is a temptation
    You pull me in so easily—it’s gravitation

    That’s why I’ll
    Never understand the things you do
    Butterflies in my stomach turn into constellations

    That’s why I’ll
    Never understand the things you do
    Butterflies in my stomach turn into constellations

    My night sky is you
     
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  3. BenniTheBlockbuster

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    Very Nice man, i Love it
     
  4. basschild

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    Yeah-very nice, cool voice and good sound!
     
  5. Kuuhaku

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    Thanks guys :) I'm happy that ya like it
     
  6. Staee

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    what was the step to get added to the playlist? you add it for release 2-3 weeks later and pitch it to spotify?
     
  7. Kuuhaku

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    So,I've uploaded it on January, and the song was released last friday (04/11), other than that I tried to pitch it appealing to the potential the song has to reach people
     
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    congrats on the spotify playlisting, i know that was super helpful for me when my music started taking off. hope its helps you reach people as well

    anyways, you have a nice timbre and inflections in your voice, i also like that your singing in your native language. a lot of the time (at least to an American like me) you can hear a foreign accent when people sing english and its not their native language, most of the time it doesnt serve their voice as much as their native language with their accent. definitely keep shaping your songs around and leaving a lot of room for your voice. the voice is the element most listeners connect with in general and as an artist what can take you further

    instrumentally moving forward id suggest working on song structure, like adding more movement in the instrumental with sections. you have it in the lyrics and the vocals; the music progressing will really elevate your music emotionally and be more captivating if done well. its kind of lacking dynamics as a song and the vocals are just carrying, which in R&B comes off as amateur songwriting. nice job though and good luck
     
  9. eric bee

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    nice, for my taste (25 year DJ and producer) kick and snare a little bit to way back, especially the snare to far in background and could be a little more louder
     
  10. Balisani

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    First of all, I like the melody (no comment on the lyrics unless I'm paid, sorry).

    My sentiment is that this song is unfinished - for starters, there's no form (AABA or IAABCAABCDCCC for instance), or structure, unlike you consider going around in circles as a structure. So as cool and catchy as the melody is, it doesn't take away from the repetitiveness (borderline monotony) of the song.

    Secondly, the drums are too loud - the whole song would benefit more from a Neo-Soul approach than what you've done here - and the drum sounds are stuck in a demo loop. There are much better drum sounds you can use or download for free. Your choice here makes me question your monitors. What do your musician friends say?

    The recording of your voice sounds worse than an iPhone recording. Whatever mic you've been using is either not right for your voice, or you've destroyed the original recording with treatment after the fact. I'm leaning towards a really cheap mic - but even then, I don't know any cheap mics that sound that bad. Something's wrong in your vocal chain.

    Last but not least, and it's tied to your formless song (form provides contrast, dynamism, and forward moving energy), there's virtually no arrangement, no varying sonic textures here. It's the same bar or two bars in a loop, over and over again.

    What to do? Where to start?

    1) Change the drum sounds, make it more Neo-Soul. Also, layer over some percussion, sprinkle some high end with shakers or triangles, don't let the drums overpower your vocals. The vocal is the most important in a song.

    2) Rerecord your vocal(s) with a different mic, try re-amping also. Double, triple your vocals on the most important lyrics, to draw attention, to underscore their hinging towards the crux of the matter.

    3) If possible at this stage, add a bridge, maybe an intro and outro; add other instruments (double the parts already there with other sonic textures at the very least).

    If this is your first song, and what I've told you seems like too high a mountain to climb: don't stop there. Write another song, and another, and another, etc. There are 52 weeks in a year. You can write 50 songs. It's all about choices: major or minor, this key or that key, this scale or that scale, fast or medium or uptempo, AABA or Intro-Verse-Verse-Transitional Bridge (Pre-Chorus some people also call it), Chorus, Verse, Verse, Chorus, Bridge, TB, Chorus, Chorus, Coda? Make decisions fast, and stick to them, and move forward.

    After you've written and recorded 50 songs, pick one good melody or groove or idea from each one of them, and try to make a dozen new songs from the best of those ideas. Don't be afraid to listen to great songs and copying their form structures and writing your own song following their form. Forms are not copyrighted. Have at it.

    Bottom line: I like the melody, the original idea. One single idea is not enough though, you need to work on every other aspect of the song. Here's a video to illustrate what I mean: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8jm4AUP/

    Good luck!
     
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  11. Kuuhaku

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    Ty bro, yeah the pitching is insane, my last release had 20k in 2months and this one has already 20k in 5 days, insane. I also appeared on my local Virgin Music page, which is insane! I'm really happy about it, mainly because unlike most of my others songs this is the one that I most relate to, in both by what it means and by the song itself, it's a piece of me that I really love

    And about the movement, it was kinda of intentional, I've been experimenting with it for 2 years and me and the artist felt like it's lyrics are so impactful and moving with the beat that we decided keeping it the same loop till the end, almost no breaks or pauses, and we took so long to convince ourselves about taking the drums out at the end, we we're really thinking about keeping the same 16bar loop till the end of the song xD, most of the time producing it was by timbring and sound selection to perfection, I kinda wanted to bring that boombap vibe to it, but without being too dirty, its only dirty enough you know?

    Thanks bro, I'll note that, I was thinking that the kick was too loud xD, and yeah the snare is kinda too faded, I was worried about it taking too much space

    Bro thank you so much for such a deep analysis, that be helpfull af

    About the structure of the flow, it changes a lot during the song but I think that's because of the lyrics being the main focus of this thing

    About the drums being too loud and sound selection: I have a pair of Yamaha's HS8s, the drums on this were a big controversy now, some people say its too quiet, other say its too loud, my producers/musician friends really like it, I've made that sound selection cuz I really wanted to bring that boombap vibes, almost dirty and old sounds, but that was intentional, the whole thing of this project (this song belongs to an album which it's aesthetic is pixelated game-like, focusing on bringing nostalgia, past feelings etc...) and I had a really hard time fiding a snare on this conditions, the kick is from A REALLY old song, like 1980 song, the hat and snare are from the same song too, but they're more recent, from 2000s

    Bout the recording: Damn, that sucks, the artist recorded in home, he has a really good mic but his fan where spitting air through it and we couldnt reproduce the same feeling on the studio so we decided to stick with these vocals, even though their quality was dubious, at the end this track is too dependent on them... Also I had a lot of trouble cuz somehow he managed to sing the entire song one-step above the original key, so I had to transpose everything one step up, and that certainly made it lose some quality as well

    Bout the same bar loop: Yep, that was the thing most people, even my friends said that we could change, but after explaining the reason I think it makes more sense (I explained in the first quote)

    Thanks for the attention bro, good look too ❤️
     
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  12. reticular

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    Congratz, you´re doing pretty good and the view count in 5 days is not just luck! Songs have certain "falmiliar" structure to them, not a copy of something particular but rather going with the feeling, if that has any meaning tho...anyway, props and keep going!

    For the drums, yes they go hard but it is still within artistic choice based on listening thu the small speakers and phones and so on, it needs to "rattle" ;:==))

    drop us a "mastering" battle, btw, who´s doing the mastering?
     
  13. Kuuhaku

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    And thanks brooo, yeahh the numbers say it all, I'm really happy with it ❤️
    Mee, I did all the work other than the lyrics and visuals
     
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    I liked it. There's already enough covered above, but if I had to pick only 1 thing to change; it would be to make the main guitar chord strum later in the song become less repetitive. That might be just removing some sections, or just adding some effects to create some variation to it. After you hear the track 50+ times, you may feel like there is too much of it or that it is just a little too static.
     
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  15. Kuuhaku

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    I seeeee, here's something I could've done, I may experiment with that on the next songs, and thanks bro ❤️
     
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    @Kuuhaku yeah i feel you. i mean if you love it than i love it, just sharing some of the awareness i have for you for future songs you. cause while i understand where youre coming from and have been there, i also understand that you can still retain all of what you mentioned you felt but also push the song further. thats whats on the next level


    like for instance, this is an R&B song thats been #1 here in the U.S. for 8 weeks now. the groove and the lyrics are still the focus, it has hip-hop elements like youre going for; but its a lot more impactful musically in large part because of the use of movement and sections; and its around the same length as your song but its more dynamic and keeps the same energy but has more emotions because of it

    Luther by Kendrick Lamar ft SZA


    or this song, similar to what you said, even keeping the east coast Boom Bap vibe you mentioned; but has what i mentioned in regards to instrumental movement through sectioning in R&B and how it elevates it with its dynamics and energy

    Ex-Factor by Lauryn Hill


    now this is in no way meant to downplay anything youve done or how you feel about it: just more to help you see what i see. intention is the basis of songwriting, almost everyone noteworthy at this level writes with intention. even more intention and pushing yourself further is what will make you a better songwriter, its what will make you more money, have you work with bigger artists and make music that impacts others to a greater extent - so while i understand where youre coming from and that youll do what you want, i also understand well the difference it makes. i also see the potential, thats why i even said anything. though keep growing and you might have a lot more to be proud of than you do now
     
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  18. Kuuhaku

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    Dayumn, that`s insane! I see what you mean now, yeah that one from lauryn hill gets there, the kinda vibe I wanted to it, thanks bro, I`ll try getting better at it, thank you so much for the suggestions ❤️❤️❤️
     
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