you basically answered his question about why it is like that with that it is like that. what an insight.

 

C and G are keys, major and mixolydian are modes.

mixolydian is not more a mode of ionian and aeolian than the other way round.

 

If you think C and G are complicated spare a thought for the Germans, they have an H too.

 

since i had internet at home i switched to call it bee and bee flat because otherwise noone understands you

 

Actually, I stand corrected. You are right. So perhaps the right thing is both good and bad.
Where is Ted Nugent when you need a riff?

 

read again carefully, thats what I wrote: dont mix the "areas" of modes and keys

note carefully, i wrote "C major" meaning as a key example against ionian or mixolidyan, you can ignore "major" if you know what I am talking about. The problem in this thread is just there, everyone is mixing that concept, thats why I added "major". I also added clearly that "there is no fight between keys and modes", so the question makes no sense. You should add this, as it seems that you have this concept clear

I keep yours as a more precise addition to what I meant.

 

Hello there Somnambulist, sorry for waking you up, I hope you're not in a bad mood. The pink highlight is just a mere wordplay. It wasn’t an attribution directed at you, but I can’t help associating that word with our postmodernist frustrated trool:



Of course, jazz musicians know other scales and approaches stemming from different musical disciplines and other practices, and each style has its unique place in jazz history. At no point did I say that jazz musicians only use modes (I meant that they are part of the jazz musician's fluent vocabulary when thinking about modal intent), and it’s quite obvious that musical creativity is rooted in multiple factors and influences. Generalizations are more a result of the framing rather than the actual practice itself, where everything happens simultaneously, all together and intertwined. So, there is great danger in extreme simplifications, in single-cause narratives to explain complex phenomena, but we are just discussing a topic here, not writing scientific articles, right?

Honestly, Lois, nowadays I think we join a post to help someone and it feels like the house is falling apart! While I like the idea of abandoning blame and seeking more complex and integrated solutions, I think that goes far beyond the question raised in the original post. Besides, this would be a great philosophical discussion for a bar table, with a cold beer and some good snacks (which doesn’t seem to be the case here, unfortunately!).

 

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You are a very intelligent man. I sincerely apologise if I came across as annoyed. I think what is bothering me most of all at the moment and I am finding difficulty sometimes separating it, is extreme sadness at how poorly some humans are treating each other on the world stage.

You are correct. I think I was more upset with you because I have always found you much more lateral and it came across as extremely linear when I read it.

Unfortunately, we are all guilty of writing in almost shorthand bullet points to get a lot across, unaware of how easily any one of them can be misread, which by your explanation, seems that I did.
Thanks for the dignified reply. On re-reading my post before I replied here, you would have been justified to kick my rear for appearing obnoxious which was not my intent, yet you didn't. Thank you

 

No problem at all, my dear forum colleague! Likewise, I sincerely appreciate your honest, thoughtful, and prudent response (the care you took to clarify any potential misunderstanding). All these conversations, as interesting and informal as they may be, can sometimes result in imprecise excerpts or momentary simplifications. Honestly, I see this situation as an opportunity to learn, to better understand others, and also to improve my communication, as I am not a native English speaker.

Currently, the general atmosphere seems a bit tense, heavy, permeated with conflicts, and even significant disrespect for human dignity, which highlights the importance of cordiality and consideration towards others. And you, in addition to being intelligent, possess a strong sense of empathy and self-awareness, which I hope remain ever-present during uncertain times. May you always have good company to share interesting conversations, enriching reflections, and moments of personal growth. Wishing you all the best in life!