hi i have a 909 kick. i wanna know the benefits of a high pass filter from 0-30hz ca.
do you use any high pass filter here? does it flat the sound or you eventually badly lose the power od the kick?

 

Using a high-pass filter (HPF) on a 909 kick drum from 0-30 Hz can offer several benefits:

1. Tightening the low end: An HPF can help remove sub-bass frequencies that may not be audible but can cause muddiness in the mix.
   
   
2. Creating headroom: By cutting out these ultra-low frequencies, you free up space in your mix for other elements.
   
   
3. Reducing unwanted rumble: An HPF can eliminate low-frequency noise or vibrations that might be present in the recording.
   
   
4. Focusing the kick's energy: Cutting below 30 Hz can actually make the kick sound more powerful by emphasizing its fundamental frequency, which is typically above this range.
   

Many producers do use a subtle high-pass filter on 909 kicks. When applied carefully, it shouldn't significantly flatten the sound or cause a noticeable loss of power. The key is to use a gentle slope (like 12 or 24 dB/octave) and to listen critically while adjusting.

However, it's important to note that the 909 kick is known for its deep, powerful low end. If you cut too aggressively, you might lose some of that characteristic punch. Always trust your ears and consider the context of your mix when applying filters.

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Yes. It's in general more advisable to just lower the volume or change the sample.

 

A bass-shelf? I think it's better than HPF

 

It is important to understand that a filter curve influences a lot of frequencies. The more steep the curve is the more unnatural it sounds.
My first answer is still valid.

 

so you mean the solution is to lower the volume after the filter right? why should I sorry?

 

best thing is a HPF and AFTER a boost with a shelf

the best thing to understand the trick is trying it, do it with one of these plugins, working with your ears

1 UAD VOG or 2 bark of dog plugin which is free

they are basically the same
study the manuals of both, you will find everything

 

thanks i forgot this thought of mine.

 

No, I said it is more senseful to just lower the volume and do not filter at all or just changing the sample.

 

Not sure about 909 kicks, but I do HPF kicks in general. I use TDR Infrasonic to get really precise and then I enable the dynamic bump for a crisp boost to the fundamental.

Either way, why not just experiment? I understand looking for second opinions, but at the end of the day, it's your mix and you should be the one who decides if you like it or not. What matters is the end result.

 

A slightly hipassed 909 kick makes for punchy bastard monster when distorted, and if you have a really low bassline it sits better in the mix.

But only tweaking it will tell, there's no hard and fast rule really.

 

enjoy your linear-phase dc

 

Don't listen to any of these guys. Max Matron high-passes his kicks up to 200-300hz, then adds a sine wave at 10hz with lots of UAD OTT. The man's got a billion grammies, what do these internet nobodies have?

 

This is usually what determines how I set the filter slope. The more "real", the more gentle the slope. The more "digital", the more aggressive the slope. I generally do not low-cut my kick automatically, because it's usually one of the first tracks I make in the project. I wait to see what else is down there and do it in context later, when I'm mixing. Otherwise I will likely just end up changing it anyway.

 

The terms "natural" and "909 kick" don't belong into the same conversation.

 

There is indeed a difference between filter influences on sound and a 909.

 

Did you mean Max Martin? UAD OTT doesn't exist. There's XFER's OTT that replicates OTT preset in Ableton Live multiband dynamics processor.

Source of this Max Martin technique?
In any case this would be layering and not just filtering a kick sample.

To OP: every arrangement is different but often filtering a kick sample from 30/40hz till 60-ish (it depends on the genre of course) can be
very good for many reasons. The trick is to just don't filter too much: you'll learn where there's the sweetspot with practice.

 

it really depends. Try not cutting there, and instead boosting the ever living shit out of that range, feeding into a clipper or saturator. fun stuff.