AI stealing people's content

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by tzzsmk, Nov 28, 2024.

  1. clone

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    They absolutely will and already have as much as possible. This is why I suggested that it will be all those in the middle who really get squeezed. Similar to graffitti, a Banksy is worth a million+; but if you go do the same thing, it's just garbage and will get you a little bit of jail time. The middle ground might as well be AI because no-one even notices any of it. Even in commercial printing, this already happened with Computer to Plate. There will always be a market for high end expensive litho and magazines, and also for web press garbage junk mail. In the middle ground, entire pre-press companies gone out of business. Everything in the middle becomes a race to the bottom, because buyers only care about price.

    Those Actors' Guild striking workers who won some concessions over AI only really figured out one thing. They aren't ready to completely screw them, yet. That's like a caged pet alligator you keep feeding, until one day it is so big it outgrows the cage and eats you instead.
     
  2. Somnambulist

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    @curtified - In every industry, there is a term called 'outsourcing'. You are in a unique position where you can ensure outsourcing is not the A.I. Outsourcing proved to be less expensive in every industry, and for companies, financial practicality. It made sense with insurance, terminations, contracting and not having to hire anyone permanently. If you say you are all for improving and ensuring people are not replaced, then you of all people need to watch it closely as A.I. improves even further, because an A.I replacement if it turns to custard, will be permanent.
     
  3. curtified

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    outsourcing has always been in line with capitalism. We can point blame at whatever current target is out there. But this problem runs way deeper than the current villain AI.

    we can wack a mole ai. Or wack a mole technology in general. But there is a deeper issue to be addressed
     
  4. Somnambulist

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    A.I. has never been the problem. It is like anything designed with the intent to benefit humankind.
    It is the people who intend to turn it into a purpose it was never created for. Reiterating, you are in a unique position to help ensure it doesn't.
    So we are on the same page, I do not consider A.I. a villain. I consider the people who intend to misuse it for their own misaligned purposes that is the problem. There are plenty of them unfortunately.
     
  5. curtified

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    Yep its not the knife manufacturer's fault if a person uses their product to harm someone. The responsibility falls on the person who chooses to use it with bad intentions.

    We could boycott the knife industry to protect people from those who have misused knives in the past or might misuse them in the future, but that feels like a counterproductive use of time. Instead, the focus should be on the individual’s choices. A knife can butter bread, cut steak, smoke hash :), or cause harm. The tool itself isn’t the issue it’s how people choose to use it.
     
  6. Somnambulist

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    Nobody should have trepidation about A.I. If you want to call it fear it could be read as that and for some people it may well be. For me, centuries of clear-cut and surreptitious human nature does nothing to encourage the likelihood that that it will only be used as it was intended.

    P.S. I am cynical and skeptical, not afraid.
     
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  7. curtified

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    What this tool is made for is interpreted by the user.
    • One person might use Suno to help writers block.
    • Another might use it to flesh out a voice note using covers
    • The other might make a song about their dog
    • Another might change the lyrics of a song they had recorded years ago. Etc etc etc.
    • And yes someone might use it to make a song about loving hitler.
    Why cast a viewpoint on the tool through the last option alone?
     
  8. curtified

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    Curtified, tell your netflix peeps you found a brand new AI. You unfortunately have to gatekeep it, because its super top secret, its a bit slower than the existing ones, but it gives the best results, then send all their work to me!! i'll give you a piece of the pub and sync fees

    :rofl:
     
  10. curtified

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    hahah I got you! TBH they are always looking for more in house producers.

    maybe youre talking about YuE? ( https://github.com/multimodal-art-projection/YuE ) because thats excatly what I shared with them. Its slow and clunky.. but it is like a personal suno, udio, riffusion, etc.
     
  11. curtified

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    Im kinda driving the same point home. Yeah bad actors will use tools for bad things. Thats what humans do. But there are always people using tools for good too. Arguably more good uses for tools than bad.
     
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