AI vocals are still not as authentic as human vocals?

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  1. Lois Lane

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    @shinyzen .. Thanks for the tip. I already do the blackseed/oregano and will look into the NAC.:mates:
     
  2. ElMoreno

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    > Lois Lane

    I too have been suffering for the past few months (albeit from a different pathology) from a phenomenon called: trigger finger (middle finger right hand).
    I have tried everything but I think I will have to undergo surgery to open the finger and free the sheath.
    Maybe after Christmas.

    I don't know if it's because I'm a guitar player... :(
     
  3. Radio

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    Cause

    The cause of this disease is not always clear. Systemic diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, gout or hormonal changes and metabolic diseases such as diabetes can promote its development. Local trauma with swelling of the hand (e.g. crush injuries) or operations on the hand can also cause a trigger finger. In most cases, however, the cause remains unclear

    Conservative treatment

    If discovered at an early stage, treatments without surgical intervention can often bring about a cure. The aim of treating a trigger finger is to eliminate the constriction at the entrance to the tendon canal and thus the chronic inflammation. Anti-inflammatory drugs can bring about an improvement in the early stages. However, if the symptoms persist for a longer period of time, this is usually no longer sufficient.

    A local cortisone injection at the entrance to the tendon canal is then often very effective and can significantly improve or cure the symptoms for a longer period of time. If these measures do not lead to an improvement, surgical intervention can be performed.

     
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  4. Lois Lane

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    Ouch! I hope that you can find relief.
     
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    I would like a site called Audio Modify. They offer a lot of different voice options.
     
  6. curtified

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    as someone who used to have reactive arthritis aka reiter's syndrome. I had a huge bout of arthritis for a few years. the thing that helped was diet! really helped me get my mobility back. I have since found peptides. BPC157 and TB500 have got me moving like my youthful self. Give them a google. Maybe they can help with the inflammation. for me that what the issue was Inflammation.
     
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    we are not only reprogrammable, but we are self programmable, that is a very powerful combination.
     
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    Taurine daily, Alpha Ketaglutaric Acid (AKG), Vitamin D & K2, zinc,copper,magnesium, sperminidine from rice or wheat germ.
    Tumeric powder with black pepper, Digestive enzymes to aid uptake of dietary foods and supplements, Chew a clove (not a clove of garlic) a couple times of day, (at least with morning coffee and before bed, if not before every meal, it aids digestion, primes the digestive system among other effects)

    Melatonin and magnesium before bed, its important to reinforce the circadian rthym which weakens with reduced hormonal production of aging which becomes self reinforcing bioloop, causing faster aging.

    D2 & K2 with zinc, and copper in the morning. Bright light in the morning whether natural or artificial if artificial supplement with red light to emulate sunrise and bring about the natural biorythm of your hormonal system.

    dimmer light in the evening, reduce blue light whenever possible in the evenings, reduce bright white led, use soft warm led if alternatives are not available.

    I once read your body changes more in late middle age, than it does during adolescence, your hormonal systems decline, testosterone drops in men. it becomes difficult to gain muscle, fat is harder to burn etc.

    it can't be entirely stopped but the decline can be moderated and that requires dietary changes, as well as exerecize and supplementation of diet with nutrients as your digestive system will also decline and needs to be supplemented and exercized.

    Fasting is a great way to reset your digestive system as well as clear out dead/damaged cells that accumulate and cause damage and interfere with repairs and normal bodily functions. It will also clear your thinking and remotivate you.

    I'm reading currently, "The Ageless Revolution" - haven't finished it but the author seems to be discussing many of the same things I've found through trial and error..

    available at Amazon, and better internet torrents everywhere:

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    good luck, as W.C. Fields said, "Its a hard life, a mans lucky to make it through it alive..."
     
  9. Radio

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    Back to the topic, let’s see what ChatGBT has to say about it:

    AI vocals are still not as authentic as human vocals?


    1. Emotional Nuance: Human singers can convey a wide range of emotions through subtle variations in tone, pitch, and dynamics. AI, while improving, often struggles to replicate the depth of human emotion in its performances.

    2. Expressiveness: Humans can add personal touches, such as breath sounds, slight imperfections, and unique vocal characteristics that contribute to a more relatable and authentic sound. AI vocals can sometimes sound overly polished or robotic.

    3. Context and Interpretation: Human singers interpret lyrics and melodies based on their personal experiences and emotions, which can add layers of meaning to a performance. AI lacks personal experience and may not fully grasp the context of a song.

    4. Variability: Human voices naturally vary from performance to performance, which can add to the uniqueness of a recording. AI-generated vocals can sometimes sound too consistent or predictable.

    That said, AI technology is continually evolving, and many advancements are being made to create more realistic and expressive vocal performances. In some contexts, AI vocals can be quite impressive and may serve specific purposes effectively, such as in demos or background music. However, for many listeners, the authenticity and emotional connection of human vocals remain unmatched.
     
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    Marshall McLuhan gave us a blueprint to understanding...

    McLuhan uses interchangeably the words medium, media, and technology.

    For McLuhan a medium is "any extension of ourselves" or, more broadly, "any new technology".[4] Contrastly, in addition to forms such as newspapers, television, and radio, McLuhan includes the light bulb,[5] cars, speech, and language in his definition of media: all of these, as technologies, mediate our communication; their forms or structures affect how we perceive and understand the world around us.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understanding_Media

    we use technology to extend our senses or our capabilities,



    speech
    speech[5]

    "It is an actual process of thought, which is in itself nonverbal"

    - therefore my 2 cents - if speech is an actual process of thought, then singing, which is an emotive type of speech, like oratory, causes emotion in the singer and is induced in the listener. When AI can be used to invoke emotion, it will become a powerful propaganda tool, like oratory.

    I saw Laurie Anderson a couple times, she was an interesting performer/musician/comedian, sort of will rogers with a synth and a vocoder. She talked about technology and politics and emotions and relationships.

    She said in one bit of schtik discussing the musical and emotive functions of speech, "Hitler was a drummer" - meaning the cadence of his words and the crescendo's rising and failing in his voice, even if you don't understand a word of German, you hear the patterns.

    "Reagan was an Opera Singer" she said, contrasting his style against Hitler, not the content of the speeches, but the delivery.
    it was an intersting moment for me and one that we understood as we laughed and agreed.

    That was 30 years ago, and It struck me hard enough to continue to remember it...
    Words and ideas are powerful especially when joined with emotion, when machines have that power we will face many difficulties as men will use these capabilities for what they always desire, money and power.

     
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    Crazy the difference 6 months can make.... Suno, Riffusion, and Ace Studio in particular have come a very long way in short order in this regard. If you didn't know they were AI, you wouldn't be able to pick them out of a random listening session.
     
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