Hi everyone,
as an IT I have to clarify how nowdays so-called "AI" - which are LLMs in truth - really works:

• original humans-generated contents are used for TRAINING (exactly as we do ourselves by reading a book, listening an album, watching a paint, etc.);
• trained neural networks generates new, ORIGINAL "well-guessed" content based on user prompt.

The concept is well-but-simply explained by Leo Gibson in this video about how Neural Amp Modeler works:

So LLMs doesn't "steal" contents but needs as training datas to generate new one.

Anyway, for example, I'm very intrigued in exploiting these features to "regenerate" audio of old concerts recordings made with camera's microphones.

Check this out: https://shiranaziz.github.io/examples/

 

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Very interesting and thank you for the article. But you should show the whole picture and shed light on the entire situation.
What you are writing is a little naive and gullible. I don't know everything either, but I'll try this:

First of all, every AI company needs permission from the author if they edit or change the data. Once the concert recordings have been edited with the AI, what happens to the concerts, who earns money from the release and where are they published?

And what does editing by AI cost?
In your example, the band is Coldplay, who owns the concert recordings, the record company, the TV station?

How much money flows there is of course not transparent. Since AI companies have big investors behind them, money doesn't play a big role. Of course, these AI companies will have to report to their investors and make a profit at some point, so the AI programmers have to beat the competition and produce a very useful product.

There is a saying that says data is the new gold. But what exactly does that mean? The term is very vague?

 

Yes I have tried them and answer this...

• How does an A.I enable YOU to write something original?
• Does it disregard every piece of music theory in the last 1,000 years?
• Does A.I. avoid copying any style, or any genre, song or artist?
• Does A.I. randomly create something without copying anything that anyone has ever done so it is original?

ANSWER = NO. It clones and copies and if it sounds new, you did not do it unless all you fed the A.I was your own music (which you can do). So if you have not used your own music that you wrote, it cannot possibly create anything that is YOU. You have allowed a machine to clone someone else's work and tried to call it your own. FACT. It cannot do jack shit without a point of reference and yes, I have tried it. It is a great tool but that is ALL it is. With your own creations it has massive potential. Using other people's music it is straight theft and they know it.

There is nothing creative about cloning or copying someone else's work and calling it your own, it shows a total lack of creative imagination to steal someone else's ideas and it is called theft. A great producer makes their own beats they do not need to steal someone else's.

 

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Well, this presupposes the use of online "AI" services, but keep in mind that both training and inferencing using neural networks can also be done locally exploiting your own computing power.

About copyright: nowdays all major "AI" online services grants copyrights to the user who submitted the prompt.

So, if you wanna be free and generate copyright-safe content using neural networks I strongly encourage you to train it yourself (on your own data of course).

NO, neural networks doesn't work as you supposing they do: inferencing DOES NOT clone nor copies anything trained on.
In human terms, generated contents are “inspired” (technically it's advanced statistics) by the contents they have been trained on.

 

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If anyone is interested: EU AI Act: first regulation on artificial intelligence
www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20230601STO93804/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artificial-intelligence

 

That is exactly my point.
It cannot create by itself without being fed something that already exists. Human beings if they are good musicians and composers can create without any reference point. They can be sitting in the middle of a desert and write something with the only reference being the barren land they are sitting in. A.I is incapable of doing that. It can only borrow or steal, whatever anyone wishes to call it, from something else or someone else.

 

AI or KD (Artificial Stupidity) is software made by humans. Like everything new, you are promised a lot so that you give your hard-earned dollars to companies that will use the money to digitally enslave you even more.

You will know that Aldous Huxley was right, you will love your enslavement Aldous Huxley:

Loving your own enslavement The British writer Aldous Huxley was born 125 years ago.
In his most famous novel, "Brave New World," he describes freedom as the last resort of human error.

Do We Live in a Brave New World? - Aldous Huxley's Warning to the World

 

In a BBC interview that you can likely find on YouTube, Huxley stated that man is now a victim of his own technology. Add to this the Orwellian foresight from his novel 1984, and you have our current political and socio-economic world too.
As the saying goes, 'hindsight is 20|20 vision'.

 

Noam Chomsky - once wrote that we must attack the large corporations and power elites, otherwise we will perish. His book is called:

Noam Chomsky and Emran Feroz

Fight or Perish!
Why we must stand up against the masters of humanity

Description
Noam Chomsky is one of the most important thinkers of our time. The MIT professor emeritus at the world-famous Massachusetts Institute of Technology is considered a "jack of all trades". In this book, Chomsky talks about the big questions: Why is there still so much inequality in our world? Are we already living in a dystopia?

Is humanity on the brink of self-extinction? Why do the "99 percent" not rebel against the "elites", the "masters of humanity", as Chomsky once called them? Hardly anyone can judge all this better than Noam Chomsky, who has almost a whole century of revolution, revolt, war and destruction behind him and is still optimistic. This should encourage us all to keep going, because we have no other way out.

 

The industrial revolution brought about 150 years of unparalleled human misery and we're still fighting to curb its worst excesses (and we've been losing the war for the past 50 years).

99.999999% of people who believe AI will be their big breakthrough, the ultimate hack to outsmart the rest of the human competition, will be devastated when there is nothing left for them to do but admit that they won't be the ones riding the crest of innovation towards untold riches.

Locally run AI models on a 2.5 tokens per second 3080 Ti - the same way weavers spent their life savings on a single outdated mechanical loom, not realising that the rich guy from the big city already owns thousands of much newer, faster looms, operated by people whose motivation is not starving to death.

They, their children, and their children's children - they all ended up being slaves to that guy.

It's gonna get worse. Much worse.

 

reminds me how everyone was afraid of the Internet when it first came out.

 

to be fair, the internet is a terrible place. Im a pretty avid user and am terrified of it. The woman in the video brings up some very valid points.

 

Nobody intelligent is afraid of A.I.
What people are afraid of is the people with intentions to weaponize it or replace people. It is only a tool but humans seem to want to weaponize every tool they can no matter how good the creator's motives when they created it.
Everyone said Huxley's book Animal Farm would never happen in America. BOOM.

 

Hi everyone, it's cozy here lol
Well, I saw the OP video a couple days ago and the controversy is justified. I'll catch up with this thread when I can. And if I can...
It's indeed a crazy thing, a "fumada" like we say here. Which reminds me that I still have...

 

Well, that's Orwell but the comparison with Huxley's Brave New World is valid

 

Yes they both have a similar outlook and neither are particularly great

 

I agree. You can use the internet to do bad things but you can use it to do good. The video was just demonstrating people’s confusion and fear around a new technology.

Yeah you can use a knife to cut your food or another human. It’s up to the person using the tools and how they use them. Not the provider of the tools.

 

Surely nobody would ever do that! I mean, Google definitely didn't just decide to allow their AI for use in weapons and surveillance! they would NEVER do such a thing, especially after assuring they wouldn't. Thankfully, we can all rest easy, knowing we can trust such mega tech corporations and the government!

 

It's been said before by people that know what they're talking about, and after a few years of watching AI I can really agree that this may well be the technology that will end humanity. It is already invading our world in various ways. Governments are using it to profile people and relying on its expertise. It's answering most of the students answers and writing there thesis for them. It's slowly but surely replacing the creative human mind.

For now it's even not so much the AI itself but more how companies and governments are adopting it and using it to provide them with information. They will know everything about you! Every relation you've been in, every vacation you've been on. Basically every fart you ever exposed on the net will be known to them! The human equation is no longer needed. Only the data that we generate and how this is evaluated by AI will be relevant. But there's more.....
AI will use all these human profiles to evaluate its own human equation! It will advice governments on their actions and policies. AI may develop a further mind of it's own that governments depend upon? From there it could go terribly wrong.

In the end we could all be fighting each other because of news generated by AI bots! Nobody will know what news is real and what is fake! Not even governments!

So basically....we're all fucked if we keep relying on AI! And it doesn't look like were about to give up on it? So we're fucked! Probably not today, not even next year, but maybe 5 years from now the world will look a whole lot different?
And certainly not for the best!