Cracked plugins mindset

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  1. Auen Fred

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    noone mention the www side/dynamic in this ?
    BTW enjoy the last month or years having the old www which yet is it at just 80-90%.
     
  2. Auen Fred

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    busted 3:drummer:
     
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  3. lbnv

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    Musicians steal from developers by using cracked soft.

    Developers steal from musicians by inventing AI.

    Justice exists.
     
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    Sure, then you probably don't like that many, and if you do like a lot?, what then, do you buy them all?, if so, then you must have a lot of money but then I wonder why you try it out first and don't buy it directly, somehow contradictory.
     
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  5. Auen Fred

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    not musicians started this , it were IT/coders nerds....
    the big ones dont even rls devs without bloat and shit protections anymore...
    what about archiving abondant stuff...
    from what i kno the big wine'rs are silent now and bigger than ever before...warez/marketing
    but i kno few one man devs got destroyed by warez , i think this were morely lib devs and similar.
    but again nobody here seem to take www dynamics/freedom takin into acount...
    like always its not an easy answer and life is not medal with 2 sides rather a diamant with dozens and dozens of sides...
    be carefull what you wish for...
     
  6. Somnambulist

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    In a perfect world everyone would own what they have outright. Inflation and the basic cost of living globally doesn't really do wonders for anyone.
    I do not begrudge anyone doing what works for them.

    However, if anyone calls themselves a professional musician or a professional studio and they get wages or pay wages, I believe a person should own the majority of what they use all of the time. After all, it is helping you generate those wages. It just makes sense if anyone uses something all of the time, it is good to get the support.

    There is one other important thing that is missing in this equation. Not all support is created equal. If the support is absolute crap, it makes it extremely difficult to conversely support their product. Perhaps if the developers looked at providing an excellent level of support for all of their clients, then perhaps their sales might be better. Any product does what it was designed to. That to me is not what I pay for. I pay for the support and information to optimize the product I purchased. So if the support sucks, sorry, your product is almost begging to have the shit hacked out of it.
     
  7. Radio

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    A little story from real life from a band I know, it was a few years ago (early 2000s) but it's a good example:

    In practice, musicians either got their guitar as a gift, bought their first guitar from a holiday job or worked in a factory, for example. Then they learned and practiced for free in their free time.

    Then they formed a band and rented a practice room, which they also had to pay for. The costs were shared between the band members and other bands who also rehearsed there. During the day they had a permanent job or were supported by their parents.

    They had a few pieces of music together and decided to buy a mixer and a recording device and take out a loan for it. Then they went to a recording studio, which they also had to pay for, and made a print run of 500 to 1000 records.

    Then they took care of distribution, advertising and planned a tour through the country. If the rented tour bus broke down on the way, they also had to pay the bills for the repairs. At the gas station, they also had to pay for petrol and lots of alcohol.

    Well, wake up, the band hasn't earned a single euro/dollar so far.

    Then some money came in from record sales and performances, which was divided between four band members and paid off the loan. Now they were famous, had something to show for themselves, had made a name for themselves and had had a lot of fun.

    Get rich as a musician or be able to live off it?
     
  8. Somnambulist

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    For as long as I can remember, the wealthy performing musicians comprised of between 1%-3% of the entire global musician population. It has always been about being in the right place/space at the right time or who you know.

    Also, for as long as I can remember, I have seen musicians and singers better than anyone who is famous and nobody had heard of them and outside of their town/state, nobody might ever hear of them.
    I see prodigy's aged from 6-14 on many instruments every day on the Internet. It is likely the same percentage will be heard of still in ten years time and the rest fading into obscurity.

    Back to the point being, that if you are making money from something you should buy it, whether that is a plugin, or a piece of equipment. :)

    P.S. The ability to make a consistent living where a musician was not struggling perpetually from performing live music, ended for the majority somewhere in the 1990s.
     
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  9. Radio

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    I believe that nature itself always produces a certain percentage, as you aptly described, in order to be able to adequately satisfy the need for art and music. Perhaps we create it ourselves. I think profession comes from vocation. You probably sense at some point that you have talent and simply follow your feelings and unconsciously or consciously follow the path of the musician. Fate ~ destiny?

    The money you earn is not just there to make a living, but also to realize and promote your dreams and wishes. A meaningful purpose in life or lived out creativity. And you can't lose anything because the path is the destination or you gain your own practical experience.

    It depends on where you are born, there are countries with a lot of poverty but they also have their own culture and a drum is quick to build and dancing together around the campfire strengthens solidarity and is fun.

    Anyone who lives in great poverty but has electricity and internet access can download software from Team R2R and also become part of digital technological progress.

    I saw someone in India who built his own power supply. In Cuba, someone organized USB sticks with the TV program from abroad, which is forbidden in Cuba. Someone built a server and connected the neighborhood with the TV program by laying cables. Everyone is happy.

    I used to have 2 guitars, 2 amps, 2 drum machines and 7 synthesizers, a firewire mixer, a box full of cables... I sold some of them and some of them are in the cupboard. I'm more focused on software now and have really invested a lot of money in plugins.

    In Russia, someone once said that the wages are on the table, so I can either buy something to eat or music, I can't have both. That's why wages have to rise. Since that doesn't happen everywhere, poor people will use cracked software. For many people, eBay is also a chance to get older software or older hardware.

    As long as people aren't given more money to live on or the taxes are completely taken out, many people will not be able to afford instruments. That's why youth work and musical support are important so that young people can try out everything that's out there. The rich or the state should finally invest more money in young people instead of in the arms industry.

    At our neighboring school, every student can choose an instrument and the school then buys it, for example a trumpet or they can take a course at the circus that is paid for.
     
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