Cracked plugins mindset

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  1. Roject

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    I just want to say that she didn't give a fuck about plugins or about hardware.
    She grab a pair of crappy speakers, connect them to crappy piano toy and write music.
    Transfer the idea to the real thing.
    It's not perfect and of course need work later by her and by the team of engineers but she not spent 10 years to collect all the plugins by R2R or hours to choose the right kick or snare sample. She just grab a hammer smash on the floor and record it using tascam. Kick part is done.

    Plugins are evil and enemy of time and creativity.
     
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  2. Smoove Grooves

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    "Didn't". In the past tense.
    She uses them now!
     
  3. Roject

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    Yeah. Probably. And look for her music now. Is bland. All compositions are similar. Plugins washed her unique sounds and now her sounds are predictable and repeatable.
    I don't like nowadays Bjork.
    For me 90s Bjork vs. modern Bjork is a completely different Bjork.
     
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  4. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

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    Uh, I was telling you. It is not "probable", it is fact.
    I only ever talk from first-hand experience.
     
  5. Roject

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    Are You stalking her? :bleh::hillbilly:
    You don't want to hear about my first hand experience. About second even I don't wanna remember those things :goodpost:
     
  6. Smoove Grooves

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    Music has been my profession for many decades, so no.
    Knowing what I know is contextual to working with people.
    And I can also safely say that her name isn't pronounced with a hard 'o' as people do; it sounds more like a 'u' or 'er' tone.
    Not that this will stop anybody from mispronouncing her name! haha.
     
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  7. Atlantis84

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    facts if u doing it for a hobby it don't make sense to spend money on it like that maybe every once in a while u can show love to the favorite company of your favorite vst that you like using the most but other than that there's no point of doing it
     
  8. carmenrinda

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    I've heard somewhere that even famous professional musicians use cracked plugins, and it's true...
    By the way, who else are famous people who use them?
     
  9. Radio

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    Some hide their money in tax havens, a small rest of the characterless, money-hungry musicians, yes, among musicians, as in all sections of the population, there are also psychopaths and thieves, do not pay for the services they use. The coke that some snort is also illegal.
     
  10. Blunt

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    All the cracked vst's, vsti's i try out and like, i buy...for the simple reason that i make money with them...and i do buy hardware as well
     
  11. Wearesparta123

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    Isn't that why pretty much most developers offer a demo?

    I think people would be better off using a demo rather than just going straight for a cracked version. I bet most people have a lot of plugins they never use but they have because they got it cracked for free.
     
  12. carmenrinda

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    Even if music composition plugins disappear due to the proliferation of cracked plugins in this world, and manufacturers disappear, and music composition plugins disappear, it won't have a significant impact on the act of composition itself.
    If there are no plugins in the first place, you can compose music if you use your ingenuity.
    In fact, not having them might actually inspire my creativity.
    But if there are, I'll use whatever is there. That's my stance on composition and one of the methods.
     
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  13. Radio

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    This cannot be prevented, as it is abused like everything else.

    But people in this world who have very little money in their pockets benefit from Team R2R, for example, and can also participate in cultural life and technological progress.

    The large corporations use the Internet as a global market.
    After all, Google has given us users and participants of the World Wide Web a free translator, Google Earth and an email inbox.
     
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    The advantage of the World Wide Web is that you can get in touch with more people than before the invention of the Internet and also share more information. In short, the Internet connects people. The Internet is a repository of knowledge that everyone who is connected to it has access to.

    Of course, this also attracts criminals who abuse the Internet.

    You could probably write a number 1 hit or compose a film score with free plugins.
     
  15. carmenrinda

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    The men in suits from large corporations are providing services day and night that they claim are "free," but they are obtaining our information for free and selling it at high prices.
    If you think about it that way, these people are also doing bad things.
    In other words, it is ridiculous that only those who use warez are blamed.
     
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    This is the essence of capitalism, the maximum exploitation of your labor. Anyone who wants to use an app or service has to click, read and agree to the terms and conditions - otherwise, if they don't agree, they can't use the software or service. Most of the time they pay with their data, which is then analyzed or sometimes even resold.

    The rest is done by criminal hackers who then hack company accounts on a large scale and sell the data on the DarkNet for profit.
    The companies cleverly distract from this by blaming others or telling them some kind of lie.

    Every now and then, like with Bill Gates and his Microsoft, he ends up in front of the European Court of Justice and they sue him and he pays his fine. Interpol and Europol also arrest and investigate criminals.
     
  17. Stewart Daniels

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    I'm not much of a ck'ed compressor/channel strip/VST collector guy (My partner is). I gravitate towards the UVI/Hive/Diva synth libs and patches (Sound Design). Hive is the Truth.

    This site has provided me access/insight to plugins unavailable/unaffordable in my real life. I have used skills learned/practiced with ck'ed software to make a little money with local business thru radio advertising segments. All money earned is reinvested into building a proper small studio when I reach my financial goal.

    Once my studio space is complete, I will legally buy the synth plugins, patches, and libs that I used to get started, as a show of maturity/responsibility. For now, I am "Faking it until I make it."

    I cannot speak on anothers' rationale/situation/moral compass, but I personally have no problems using what is on Sister Site to get where I need to be. And so far, I'm doing well. Lot's of business empires were built on a single crime, so I'll take my opportunity while the [Free] door is open with certain music production offerings.
     
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  18. Melone Musk

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    Because in "real life" almost everything you do "for fun and just enjoy it" MUST be pay for:

    - Tennis, golf... All sports in fact, with some rare exceptions like swimming nude in the sea,
    - Fishing, hunting,
    - Reading,
    - Painting, sculpting, photography,
    - Movies, theaters...

    The list is endless.

    You can argue that painting or sculpting can be done without spending a penny - for example, by making your own tools/colors and extracting materials from the soil - but in that case program your own plug-ins... or pay for them.
     
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  19. Radio

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    As a musician you have to buy the equipment first and then practice and learn for many years before you have anything useful to offer. If you are unlucky and you realize I have no talent you will give up or make sub-par music or you get married and have a family and that’s it anyway.
     
  20. SineWave

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    One thing nobody mentioned is that everybody should get paid for their work, time, expertise and effort. It doesn't matter if it's a physical product, a software product, or a service; you should get paid for the time and effort you invest into something, right? But what also stands is that most people who use cracked plugins will never buy them anyway, especially because these most people don't make any money from their work, so no profit is actually lost...

    Strange days have found us...- Jim Morrison Indeed, the world is getting stranger by day.
     
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