AI stealing people's content

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  1. Auen Fred

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    partly put subtitles on....
    few topics in there may be over the top for many but listen/read what the real quantum puter guy says ,the ....... robots,the AI or smart algo trying to scam someone or bout that neural link guy ,wtf...or the desires and plans for sentencing ppl by justice system...unreal shit
    i had no idea but then i remembered its 2025 .
    ...and here we talk bout ai like we would live in the 90s sort off .
     
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  2. triggerflipper

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    Comment bots have been around for years, like you said.

    AI made videos saying "let me know what you think in the comments below", that's more recent though.
     
  3. Radio

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    How do you get your data without breaking in? Well who knows? People voluntarily give their data in some cases, then some companies are chopped and the data obtained land for sale in the Darknet.

    The KI does the rest because of its search queries, so you know how people think and Google knows (almost) everything about them anyway. I'm curious to see if the KI forums can scan and can pull results from it.
     
  4. Incontro

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    Most of the abilities we imagine for AI are the ideas we have generated in our minds and do not exist in the real world. Everything has come to our minds we have attached to artificial intelligence and have made it unrealistically powerful.
     
  5. sevente

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    I hadn't come across this particular brand of arsepirate content thievery but I did see Ola's video where an AI music generation author launched a copyright strike against him for his own music, which is equally as terrifying
     
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  6. sevente

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    Actually, in Ola's case, I'm not even sure it was AI related - either way they were trying to demonitise his original content that they had stolen - which I don't think is what they were doing in OPs video, but could be a sign of things to come with this kind of AI stealing.
    In Ola's follow up video he posted a link to an entertainment lawyer, who saw his original video, that had some good tips about taking down copycat content:

    /iamnotalawyeruseadvisegiveninyoutubevidzatyourownrisk
     
  7. Lois Lane

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    Please, please, please come over right away to help fumigate. I have a Fembot infestation in my room and they I keep trying to rip my clothing off of me and I can't get any work done!

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  8. Radio

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    Before the internet was invented, there was theft and the Kensington Lock was invented. In our practice room, an old war bunker, thieves broke into a neighboring room and stole musical instruments. The police were there and took up the case.

    Today, there are cameras at the entrances almost everywhere to deter criminals or to convict them with images after the crime.
    The internet is like the jungle, some of our fellow human beings on this planet are cheated and stolen.

    So be careful what you do on the internet, these are not isolated cases, but rather a criminal method. If you own a company, protect yourself against ransomware and identity theft.
     
  9. AudioEnzyme

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    AI stealing people's content?
    Some still call it sharing
     
  10. duskwings

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    Are we really discussing here about stealing? Welcome to hypocrisy
     
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  11. Radio

    Radio Audiosexual

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    A few intelligent creative musicians work hard and create something, the rest of the masses either watch or steal what they can.
     
  12. curtified

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    oh yeah! gonna be a weird world.
     
  13. mercurysoto

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    Business has been like that since the world's been turning. Nowadays any artist can become the business if so they wish. At least, the entry fee is gratis or it costs very little money. Gone are the times of the A&R guy deciding who's signed to ever see their work published. Anyone can launch an album in no time. The thing is that to be commercially viable one needs to match the narrative of the times. Not everyone can do that. Shit music is a relative term. It has mostly to do with nostalgia and the music that resonates with the young. I'm old enough to remember when Madonna made shit music and was ruining the industry with her bubble-gum production, music that "real" artists and audiences hated. Today she's a cultural icon with a music legacy that has survived generations.

    You're in the industry and thrive if you're good or struggle if not that good, like in any other profession, or you're out and get a shitty music career. That's just how work is.
     
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  14. Radio

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    Record companies and their investors look for talent, develop them and put on advertisements, concerts, etc. to make a lot of money with them...! They own the big TV shows, the Grammy nonsense, the music magazines with only one goal: to make money and to dictate public discourse.

    There was once a great video here from an insider who explained where the money they earned from them goes and how much they get from it as artists and authors...! Maybe a user will find the video again?
     
  15. mercurysoto

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    Of course they want to make money. That's it. The question is, do you want a piece of the pie? You'll have to line up with the demographic and make the shitty music of the time. Chances are when the kids that consume old-farts' shitty music grow older, that music will become legendary.

    Today's shitty music is becoming AI driven. Just another turn of the wheel. In the 80s it was drum machines. It was computed-based music at the turn of the century.
     
  16. Radio

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    Yes, you're right. You can still serve as a bad example, unfortunately most people don't see that, they teach you in school, you just have to work hard and keep your mouth shut and you'll get a few crumbs at the table of the rich and elite.

    Money for soul. Some sell themselves to the highest bidder as modern slaves. Unfortunately, only a few people were able to set up alternative radio stations, set up music exchanges, organize their own concerts, set up collectives, set up clubs to promote music, set up their own labels. In short, the masses were just too stupid. Where would the knowledge of how to do it come from?
     
  17. saccamano

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    Sure. The PC and the internet makes this possible now. However to see any actual revenue from it is a complete other story.

    That's the way it used to be. Now it doesn't matter who is better or worse. It's about who has the ear of the powers that be. Which is why there is so much trash hitting the big distro channels.
     
  18. curtified

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    Kinda dont want to burst your bubble but there are huge genres, artists, and festivals that are all based on computer based created music today. Pretty much all hip hop, EDM (dance music) and subgenres.

    "Old farts" music is relative to the generation consuming it. Their nostalgia might be the most poppin Phonk song on Spotify today.
     
  19. mercurysoto

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    Exactly. There's no bubble bursting. That's exactly my point. Every new generation develops their own aesthetics, basically neglecting the previous one. It's the way we grow identity as a generation. There's an age where the music and culture of a generation hits home and that becomes what we love and cherish. Technology is always associated with that. Of course, there's great music that comes from the computer-based music making era. There's great music that comes from the 80s synths and Lynn drums era. There's great music that comes from the 4-track tape machine recording era. There will be great music coming from the AI era. How great will it be? It depends on who you ask. The older generation (mostly us) will feel it's shit music. The kids today will cherish it and remember it as the best music ever.

    That's how life progresses.
     
  20. mercurysoto

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    Exactly. At least, now there's an opportunity that had never existed before this time. The power dynamic is always the same. Deep pockets have always and will always control the industry, even since the time when the catholic church controlled the arts for propaganda in the middle ages.

    Actually, it's never mattered. What's great about "Tutti frutti, oh rootie - A wop bop a loo bop a lop ba ba"? Music is all about shaking booties, sex, and fun. That's the pop of every era. Occasionally, you get a great artist that shifts the tide a little or a lot for a short period of time, but that's not the norm in commercial music.

    Today is the time of AI-based music, and it's on us how we use it and how far we take it. It's here to stay and put menial jobs of music production to pasture.
     
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