I think a mod can close this now.

 

My DAW doesnt tell me anything, because I know what the hell I am doing before I even open it. Why would I go sit and stare at a DAW just to go 'What do I do here?" Why would I even bother at all if I had no inkling of musical ability whatsoever in the first place?
People don't go to Home Depot and buy a mitre saw and then go 'Hey I wish this thing could tell me how to use it'.

It's your talent that's missing, the DAW aint missing a damn thing.

 

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Are you sure about this?

 

is steinberg not developing some sort of standard form to save songs into, so you can easily open them in other daws? If that is the case, then it would not have to be a problem to you.

 

In general I think it's better to invest time in 1 DAW, despite possibly trying out others for a short time, because it's more valuable to be good at one DAW than to be kinda good at all of them/ You can not and do not have to use them all, so it makes no sense. I myslef am too much thinking the creative side which I give all my mental cpu to, and I do not want to even think of how I should do stuff, as in technically do stuff. The more I have to think about the techncial side, the less mental cpu I have left for the creative side. It's also the downside that some fall into, where they constantly just wanna get the latest updates, latest releases, latest plugins, where it's beter to spend time on actually makign the music than constantly downloading and trying out new stuff. You can make the same music on cubase 11 as 14..it does not matter much in the big picture.
However, this thread was more about where things are going and I'm a bit deviating from that. As to come back to he subject, I think there may be either numbers or graps out there from recently and years ago that possibly give you an insight into which daws are least currently increasing or decreasing in marketshare. Its likely that at least in the near future that pattern will continue.

 

DAWs will continue to get bigger and have more functions in the future because you have to remain competitive and sell large quantities so that the company remains profitable. Like you, I am also a fan of update stops, but as always there is a catch, and that is the error or bug in the software itself. This is also called the update trap.

 

Yes, categorically. Born out by the fact people pay me.

 

Each generation uses tools differently. But what has been proven to me is that the generation we are in now uses these tools in wrong ways.

It cannot be expected that the tools are used wrongly, but the right result is obtained.

 

What's wrong with you is you are assuming you know more than all the DAW companies existing in the world, which are equipped with the most talented and wisest men in the audio and software. If what you want was possible, it would have been already implemented.

 

There's variety of proposed open interchange formats, but perhaps you're thinking of DAWproject, created by Bitwig and Presonus, but also supported by Steinberg (in Cubase).

While a great step forward IMO, projects like these have either of these two failings:

a) it's a subset of DAW capabilities allowing only limited/basic form of interchange
b) it supports all of the supported DAW's capabilities making it ridiculously large and hard to integrate

So it's going to be a sort of baseline for cross-DAW support, which is still great.

All of that said, I think DawVert is an interesting converter (also supports DAWproject among it's types), which you might find interesting.

 

They don't know how to implement it.

Most of the operations that users do in DAWs are wrong. From the beginning of work to the end of work.
DAWs should show users the right paths and guide them. This process should be done for several decades so that users learn the right directions.
If users learn the right paths, they are allowed to use DAWs freely, otherwise they must remain under the domination of DAWs until the end.

 

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Why don't you make such a DAW then? Seems like you are the only one blessed with that holy DAW knowledge.

Or I invite you to FL Studio Forum. You can directly talk with the developers there and they reply pretty quickly. So, basically either we end up getting the holiest DAW ever, or you end up ridiculing yourself in one more place.

 

I'm done, ignored, AGAIN... what, 4 times now? See you next join-up

 

Guys. If you continue answering he will continue the same moronic rant about what daws cannot do, which of course will always remain a mystery to keep the trolling alive, since all he says is "daws don't help musicians because they are built by engineers" hahaha. Like you can't be an engineer and a musician, that's unheard of in Foster's made up fantasy world hahaha. To sum all his postings in one phrase, there is one thing and is music related:

 

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Welcome to Foster's ( @Incontro ) TrollFest Greatest hits!

Vote yourselves for the winner! OMG this shit is hard

 

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radio is foster , he did a few ninja edits altering not radio account concept conform rand comments ,but even without you could see foster shine thru here and there. site is a total unuseable these days .

a few years back i was really not bothered by foster he even did some sort of cool trolling but what he does nowadays is way beyond non acceptable for a forum alltogether .

the man from the spanish vulcan island would not had/have play along this mess .

 

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Distorted Reality is great! For those who don't know it's a sample library made by none other than Eric Persing of Spectrasonics fame. There's a nice unofficial Kontakt version (from the original Akai format discs I believe) floating about which I highly recommend.

And yeah, this whole thread is reality-distorting, true.

 

Well, he's been banned in the past from here for sure, but I can't call out as a troll someone I'm not sure.
He indeed went out of his way to call me thingies defending Foster. Calling me a troll lol. Perhaps the most surreal thing said to me after many years here. And I've been called a lot of things

Yep, I was there. He even posted music.

Probably not, anyways Foster is not worth even mentioning that man's name.

 

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its up on www archive and reddit...auen-fred16

 

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What DAW creators do is coding the physical realities of sound. These facts were discovered and formulated by physicists and mathematicians and are provided to users as computer programs by DAW creators.

What is the role of the artist?
The artist uses these softwares and creates a work of art based on social conditions and the society's views and expectations. DAW developers have no opinion about this artwork because the developer's job is to deal with physical realities and provide them to the artist in a simplified manner.

What I'm saying is that artists often have problems creating artwork for reasons we all know. Usually, they use audio tools wrongly and make things that are not art. There is no one to say that the artist followed the wrong path from the beginning in creating his work.

The new generation of audio tools should play the role of a master artist and, in addition to providing audio realities, provide how to use them to become a good work of art.

Access to mere physical and audio facts inside DAWS, if not used with an artistic vision, does not create an acceptable work of art. But if a software is able to comment on the artistic features during the creation of the artwork and guide the user in the process of producing the artwork, the artist will produce a good artwork in the end.