How? My USB issue went on for 4 weeks and never resolved with AMD and MSI just stopping to reply to support emails as they had no idea what 3lthe issue stemmed from. Could have been the motherboard rather than the CPU, and I suspect it was, but was not resolved two weeks later.

 

I already have an RTX 4080 Super 16GB in my machine, which is why the CPU is now the bottleneck for VR gaming.

 

a friend of mine bought a 9950X and another friend of mine bought a mac book pro M4 pro 14 inc 14core and I had a 3800x. we put these 3 processors to the test with the UAD teletronix plugin on reaper. this will give you an idea. we did this test considering the number of plugin openings. the results of this test are as follows

UAD TELETRONIX PLUGIN TEST (preset selected) we added audio to a channel and duplicated it

Ryzen R7 3800X = 401 uad plugin
Apple Macbook Pro M4 Pro 14Core 1000 uad plugin
Ryzen R9 9950X = 1220 uad plugin

9950x was able to open 220 more uad pugins than appel m4 pro 14c

9950X an incredible processor you can buy without thinking

 

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Why didn't you follow the Scan website and use the same tested components that they use?

 

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Well, in the previous thread before you went for MSI, you were proposed specific Asus m/b by yours truly . I have np with your choice, we 're here to give a helping hand if possible and share knowledge we might have, i just don't understand why ask, get multiple replies and then go and do the odd thing. And unfortunately you got effed by your own selection.
FYI: I can reveal and have cross referenced with the technical support of two of the largest online vendors in my country which i have personal contact with and use as my hardware suppliers, whom i can name if needed, that no matter the chatter online, especially on the AMD side, Asus mobos have the less RMAs. They reported that ever since DRAM training has been introduced with DDR5, they only had a few B series mobos RMA'd, which after thorough inspection were proven malfunctioning because of users' unrealistic/wrong oc settings. I don't see why this would be different in equal analogy anywhere else in Europe etc.
Now i am certainly not a fanboy of Asus and i haven't got anything to gain from this. As a matter of fact, i remember having an Intel Z67 Asus mobo that would keep fucking up after getting RMA'd and fixed twice (when it should be replaced with a new one), which got me so pissed that i broke it to pieces with my bare hands and mailed it back to them lol. But, i do like hard cold facts and real statistics. That's why, imho, the best reviews and opinions you can get, are from technicians who build pcs everyday for a living. Everything else, is mainly additional info that may or may not be realistic.
Cheers

 

Asus rebuttal: I have been using Asus motherboards for many years and am very happy with them.
In almost every company you can find products, so-called Monday products, that are defective.

 

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wow i really can't imagine what a 7950X cannot do. i have a 5700x 8core and i can run 50-80 uad plugins, dozen vsti's no probz. the 7950x is a beast

 

I actually did take your advice, and why I now have an ASUS X670E Crosshair Hero motherboard that my 7950X is sitting in (and what I intend to keep and drop the 9950X3D into as I really like the mobo)

 

Yes. But VR needs more of a beast

As said in previous posts, the machine is not just used for audio, but also for some casual gaming during down time, and particulary PC VR gaming, which helps give me a break and chill me out when needed.

 

Sorry, the iLok thing I meant. The USB thing...that sucks.

 

Ableton Recommend it for use with Live 12. They should know what works best with their own software no?

 

Hey matey. Happy new year This comparison chart is kinda wrong mate.
Under "overclocking" on the 9950X3D says "no". This is false, the 9000 series X3D cpus are overclockable and can be tweaked 99% just like their non X3D siblings. The "99%" concerns the increased thermal output an X3D cpu will produce versus a non X3D, so a very good to high end cooling solution is recommended.
I take it, the cpumonkey chart bot(?) assumes the 9950X3D as an equivalent to 7950X3D but this is not the case with the 9000 series cpus enabled with 3D V cache, as the architecture has changed.
The only chart that is consistently truthful and one to bookmark is https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ , also makers of the widely used Passmark benchmark.
Cheers

 

And this is my aim. I have a HAVN 420 case with an Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III 420 on the CPU, as well as I use the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste as its served me well in the past, and the case also has an additional 8 x 140mm zero rpm case fans. The system is super silent and my 7950X is normally in the 24-30 degrees range unless I start doing CPU loads, and even then it rarely goes beyond 50-60 degrees, so plenty of thermal headroom for an overclock should I wish to pursue that route.

Also, the AMD keynote at CES has just announced a March 2025 release for the 9950X3D (and 9900X3D) and presented some positive slides, though it'll be in-house preferential testing-based, but I've no doubt the 9950X3D will be both a workstation and gaming monster once the likes of Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed begin their scrutiny of them!

 

I don't see anything wrong with this chip in a gaming+music production scenario. It's just not a set-and-forget kind of deal, but I think most people looking at X3D chips by now know this and accept the extra fiddling involved to get the most out of whatever workflow they want to throw at it. Some people like that sort of thing, and don't see it as extra work, others feel the complete opposite. I think it'll be a monster either way.

 

In this respect, AMD is actually saying nothing about the performance ratio between the Ryzen 7 9800X3D and the Ryzen 9 9950X3D with these performance promises, but due to the higher boost clock of the upcoming new top model, the latter should have a slight advantage. The Ryzen 9 9900X3D, on the other hand, is likely to be a difficult birth in terms of gaming, because due to the structure of only one CCD with X3D cache, it again acts primarily as a six-core processor in games (like its Zen4 predecessor).

Due to the high approach of Zen 5 X3D, this could still be enough for a reasonable result, but it is unlikely to be without a noticeable performance penalty compared to the other two X3D models. Unfortunately, nothing was said about the Ryzen 5 9600X3D, Ryzen 5 9600 and generally about other program additions to the Zen5 portfolio at the lower end.

 

you will probably see a 15% performance increase. I'm personally going to wait.

 

The 12 core chips have always been the red-headed stepchild, never really competes against the mid-range Intel chips from a value perspective, or AMD's own stack.

 

They don't need to. 9800X3D does everything needed for gaming, so if gaming only the 9950X3D is a waste of money/poor value as the 9800X3D is well known to be more than what can be thrown at a CPU currently in virtually all gaming scenarios. Therefore, the 9950X3D is all about those who want to game but also create, so need the cores and the boost clock speeds etc for the workstation tasks. I think this is widely known, so AMD wouldn't be expected to say anything on comparing it to the 9800X3D.

 

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It will be significantly more than that in other tasks over the 7950X (non 3D cache variant) I currently have; namely VR gaming where the 7950X is a limitation and stops me being able to fully utilise my 4080 Super GPU.

 

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Yes, I understand. Here are some pictures of the performance of the new CPU!