Hello all, I'd like to share my latest orchestral piece, with some epic/cinematic moments. Could not resist a bit of electric guitar, though.

I would love to hear what you think of it, so please check it out. Hope you enjoy it!

 

I enjoyed it

 

Pleased you enjoyed it! Thanks for listening.

 

I really liked the audiovisual relationship between your music and the chosen images (the idea that the cyclical movement of harmonic progressions, ostinatos and the intensity of the orchestra's playing is visually mapped onto the cyclicality and drama of climatic events)... there’s no doubt emotion is present!

I enjoyed the orchestral section (the percussion is very well done!), even though some synthetic elements stand out, like excessive brightness in the high-register staccato strings or the brass. That said, considering something like a hybrid orchestra (something kind of synthetic, that evokes high technology and modernity), it works well!

I would just rework the guitar part. Instead of such heavy distortion, I’d suggest going for a crunchier tone, incorporating hammer-ons and pull-offs on double strings—something Hendrix might have done using the pentatonic scale in certain melodic passages (this would bring more articulation, inflection and lyricism to the guitar part).

Overall, I liked it. It’s a product that resonates with contemporary trends.

 

Last edited: Dec 8, 2024

@Mynock, many thanks for taking the time to listen and share your detailed thoughts - much appreciated!

I’m pleased you enjoyed the percussion and orchestral parts. I have to say, I myself was uncertain about the high-pitched brass sound quality. Now that you mention it, I take note, and be more careful with future tracks.

Your suggestion for the guitar is particularly interesting. I hadn’t considered a crunchier tone and techniques like hammer-ons and pull-offs, but I can see how this could add freshness to the piece. I’ll experiment with this idea!

Good to get confirmation that it works within the modern aesthetic, and again, thanks for the constructive feedback.

 

very nicely done, thanks for sharing it with us.

 

Thanks for listening and your encouraging comment, @Strat4ever.

 

I mean, this is pretty nice.
The video pulls you in, it feels fresh, not a copy of something, original and inspiring!

 

I think it's a great sounding piece, but my one criticism is I think at points there are brass parts (I think) that sound a little too synthetic or something. Overall though, nice job!

 

Many thanks for your good comment @reticular. Pleased that you enjoyed it!

 

Thanks for listening and commenting, @naitguy. Yes, I must do better with the brass, especially the high pitches. Glad you liked it overall.

 

guitar stuck out like a soar thumb def get a real guitar player to record the parts

 

Great start, the tension builds, great song, absolute professional quality.
After Hans Zimmer comes Downald, apply to the big film companies.

 

My honest and humble opinion (and you know what they say!)-

I like the piece but I would MUCH rather hear it as a unabashed electronic realization ala Vangelis or Synergy than something attempting to ape an orchestra. Go analog!

 

@robbieeparker14. I was wondering, is it just my use of the guitar instrument? If so, I welcome any improvements you may suggest. Unfortunately, a real guitar player is not an option at this point. Thanks for listening, and for your good comment.

Delighted this has worked for you, @Radio! Your comment is encouraging, and much appreciated!

What an interesting notion, @Smeghead! I love Vangelis, so shall keep this in mind for a future piece, or maybe try to re-do this one! Afraid I don't have an analog synth, but have a pretty decent digital one. Thanks for your comment, and pleased you liked it overall.

 

Orchestral music is not usually like this. I recommend that you study more.
There really needs to be a fundamental change in the way film music is viewed and made, otherwise the pieces created will not be very interesting.

 

Hello again, @Incontro. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about my music once more - seems that you do care about it!

It’s clear you have a strong perspective on what orchestral music should be, and I do want to learn more. In fact, I'd like to hear about your thoughts on what makes orchestral and cinematic music, orchestral and cinematic. What do you think would make it more "interesting" or innovative?

This piece makes use of traditional orchestral instruments - strings, brass, woodwind and orchestral percussion, along with non-orchestral instruments. What would you have it classified as? It certainly does not align with the classical orchestral forms, if that's what you mean. But then, I was not trying to emulate Bach, Beethoven or Bartók. It is clearly influenced by contemporary techniques and storytelling approaches, and reflects my interpretation of the cinematic orchestral genre in a style I am attracted to.

Music evolves, and it does so by incorporating various influences. This surely includes adopting modern tools, techniques, and concepts, and blending elements from different genres and forms. In my view, it is what keeps music dynamic and diverse.

Thanks for listening and for your comment. I hope you continue to find or create music that resonates with you.

 

I am afraid of saying words that will reduce people's hope, but I have no other choice. Today's film scores suffer greatly both from the angle of composition and orchestration. Unfortunately, this problem will never be solved because these creators of these music models are neither interested in solving the problem nor see any problem at all.
Contrary to their pompous and grandiloquent name, the contemporary music of the film is very weak and none of the principles of music are observed in them. I see this problem clearly when I listen to today's film music, but unfortunately I am not able to tell it to their creators because the creators are not at all interested in changing their way of thinking. It is not attractive in any way and the only feeling I get from them is to lower the volume of the music to make it less painful.
The contemporary music creator's way of thinking must change, otherwise he will be caught in endless and unproductive repetitions, and this flawed process will continue until the end, unless the creator chooses another way of thinking for his work and walks much more powerfully in this direction. Much more thought is required. Too much.
If my words don't matter to you, don't think about them at all and continue on your way. I will not be upset.

 

Happy new year to all!

@Incontro, thank you for your response, but I’m afraid it doesn’t address the questions I raised earlier or move the discussion forward. It’s clear that you’re not a fan of modern film music, but you write like you’ve uncovered an issue with it that others have overlooked.

Your critiques rely heavily on broad statements like “very weak,” “not attractive,” or “flawed process,” without offering any explanation or example. You have not provided the detail needed to make a meaningful argument. If your perspective is that you dislike the genre entirely, that’s fine. But condemning it outright without qualification is senseless.

You mention “principles of music,” but don’t clarify what you mean by this. For me, principles like melody, harmony, rhythm, texture, dynamics, and form are foundational to all music. Are you suggesting that modern film music lacks these elements entirely? If so, I would strongly disagree. You mention repetition again - yet this is a fundamental aspect of musical structure and aesthetics, from classical forms like rondo and sonata to modern genres.

I enjoy meaningful dialogue, but I have no wish to engage in a futile cyclical debate. If you’re able to provide constructive insights or specific examples to clarify what you mean, I’d welcome that. But if the intention is only to repeat these broad critiques, I don’t see much value in continuing, and I'll leave this conversation here.

All the best!

 

Last edited: Jan 2, 2025

I knew that my words would not be liked by you. Look, most people don't accept my words and go their own ways, but let me give you a warning. If you don't think about my words, eventually your artistic path will be in danger. I told this to many people, but unfortunately they didn't pay any attention because their goal is not to think and only to produce at any cost. I gave you this advice out of compassion. If you don't use a lot of thought in your productions, they won't have much artistic flavor and you will face many problems in the future. I hope you will think about my previous words instead of disagreeing with me.