AI stealing people's content

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  1. fiction

    fiction Audiosexual

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    If you work a lot with different AI models, it's hard to agree on a general statement like this. Depending on how the original input data was filtered and pre-classified, which criteria were analyzed to feed into the model and how the trained data is used, will all influence the quality of the result, and today you can already have just as many virtually perfect generations as you get obviously fake results.
    Developers still have a lot to learn but because so many people are interested in the technology, it won't take long until we see much better results.
    You can easily try that for yourself today on one of the free AI-based generative music sites. Find a good prompt that does what you mean, give it 10 attempts and you'll usually get at least 1 or 2 perfectly usable results.

    Good point. But how to regulate it sensibly, protecting the rights of composers without taking the freedom and fun out of music making?
     
  2. DJ PUKKA

    DJ PUKKA Producer

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    Nightmare this shit! when you have worked on a piece for maybe 6 months to a year! Then AI does it in 10 minutes! i suppose AI it's ok for medical reasons, but to piss on a music producers parade maybe can be disheartening. Or use it to your advantage! scary times ahead.
     
  3. Demloc

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    This is the petty theft in comparison, just a guy making vid2vids in his home, the analogy of a chiken robbery. Big models are all based on ramplant theft in plain light and is really easy to bring proof out of them. I hope all the lawsuits around the globe against the companies who made the models on public acess data (as "if its the reachable we can use it") win and a huge chunk of their profits gets distributed in justice.

    Go to Claude and ask it to write a lyric in Kim Gordon style, or whatever musician of your liking. Go to Udio and use any of the "magic prompts" that are online so you can get the style of Depeche Mode.

    For me this is going to be the theft of the millenia, were 4 companies stole and gatekeeped under a subscription all human intelectual labor without compensating anyone.
     
  4. tzzsmk

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    frankly, lawyers should be genuinely scared about AI lawsuit "DDoS" attacks - imagine receiving filed complaints, couple millions of them, go one by one because by law you can't throw them away :rofl:
     
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    Unbelievable, those bastards should be kicked out of every platform.
     
  6. Djord Emer

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    Something similar just happened with a friend. It wasn't a video of her playing, but actually her music videos. They filed a copyright claim against her, trying to steal her content. I've talked to some people and watched some videos and found out that bots stealing content on YouTube is pretty common now. It's disappointing, but it's what you expect. Machine learning is a great technology, but it's sad that it's often used to do shitty things like that.
     
  7. canbi

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    master assistant good voice cloning bad
     
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    The "AI" you all are on about in this thread and others isn't real AI, and won't be for quite some time... All of these trinkets that are marketed to catch the eye of the gullible shopper with the word "AI" on them are simply (for lack of a better term) more smart random number generators than anything related to actual AI. If the tech used was real AI it would cost far more $$ than what these dev's are schlepping it for now. Put some musical notes/chords in a can, shake the can around a bit and dump it on the table - that's pretty much all it amounts to...

    As far as plagiarizing vs the "law" goes, the "law's" favor the ones with the most $$ who can afford the slickest attorneys in these kinds of cases. If that is you then congratulations. Most do not fit that category and wouldn't have a chance in hell of proving otherwise... Also, you have to prove intent in cases like these, and attempting to prove "intent" (beyond a shadow of a doubt) from something that was created with what amounts to a digital roulette wheel would be almost impossible to prove in court.
     
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  10. Free Agent

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    I'm looking forward to seeing an AI ArticStorm account.
     
  11. aitken

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    We are living the content creator bubble. AI is gonna burst that. And then content wont matter anymore because we will have an app like chatgpt that will be all of those channels we love at once.
     
  12. forart.it

    forart.it Ultrasonic

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    Those who wastes their life watching SHORTS of PEOPLE (not musicians) playing covers should burn in hell (IMHO).
     
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