We've only ever seen one fully cracked version and the last we heard was the R2R 2021.7 halfcrack that required a First license to work, has all efforts been abandoned, I wonder....what are your thoughts?

 

Barring any official language floated to the contrary, my opinion would be yes, to the question. I would take it a bit further to include UAD, sonnox, and a few other "major" release candidates being strangely silent in this regard. Since I have no real official insight or proof, anything said can only be conjecture and opinion.

 

Nah, conspiracy theories like that are mostly BS.
Remember when people were like "uh, AIR is paid by Steinberg not to crack Cubendo (any more)".
And that was absolute BS, AIR themselves wrote in the N4/C5 Crack.nfo they won't do it again because it is too much of an effort. Dongles like iLok and eLicenser are nasty beasts. As far as I remember PT12 was cracked because they found some fault in the iLok implementation? And wasn't that the weaker iLok2 and now groups have to deal with the stronger iLok3?
So what do you think? Groups are helping Avid by not cracking it? Helping the most hated company besides Adobe? Or do you think the're killing PT by not cracking it, therefore it will not be widely used and be a goner sooner or later (thinking that would be rather cute).

There are 3 possibilities, and any of those is a good reason:

1) They don't even try because they think PT isn't that interesting and not worth the hassle.
(Keep in mind, PT is not widely spread in the artist/producer community, its more a thing of commercial production.)

2) They already cracked it and don't release it because they don't want AVID to know whats wrong with iLok3

3) They gonna release it this christmas (that would be great, I hope they do)

 

I am not floating conspiracy theories. I do not believe the OP is either. Since I, nor anyone else here are privy to the inner workings of the witches domain, anything said can only be construed as opinion. What is a FACT however is that the witches DO posses the ability to crack pretty much anything they wish. Ilok, PACE, or whatever be damned. They prove this on a daily basis. FACT - there is a strange quiet over pretty much every truly major release candidate in existence, remarkably UAD, Sonnox, and ProTools to name a few. I'm sure you can think of more. Why is this? I have no idea. However, denying the fact there is a strange quiet over these things, and with no official word to explain it, does not mean the hush doesn't exist.

 

Archetype aswell

 

In my experience, most "conspiracy theories" turn out to be true, I agree with Saccamano about the strange quiet over some of these plugins and PT, there are a ton of home studios and independent artist who use PT on a daily basis, even a patch to use K'd AAX in legit PT would be a welcomed release, I hope you're right about Christmas, but I'm not holding my breath...Oh, and by the way the Adobe stuff has seen several cracks over the past couple years.......just sayin'

 

There was that whole .NFO epistle (circa 200'mid teens or 00's, can't remember exactly when) about how those in the scene were just taking advantage and weren't contributing and how this was a determining factor about what the witches release and what they keep to themselves. No idea whether that is still applicable these days or not. I do know that there are those in the scene currently who are profiting from it, which goes against the basic credo of the witches to begin with - "DO NOT PROFIT FROM OUR RELEASES"...

 

Patience.

 

I think the real problem, especially with PT and UAD is they use the Ilok license manager, which I could see being problamatic to write an emulator for, and after the 2021.7 release Avid changed some .dll files in PT, there was just one ProTools.dll and now there are four, each .dll represents a different version of the program, indigo, blue, red, and green, in other words they beefed up security, and maybe that was the straw that broke the camels back, I personally wouldn't blame the "WITCHES" for abandoning it.....

 

4) They don’t crack it because it’s too difficult and waste of time.

 

Reminder that it took R2R a few years to release the famous AA batch in 2023, but the crack itself took only a few hours (according to the NFO).

 

There are a lot of reasons the Teams keep some releases internal, and none of the possible reasons are tangible for us mortals to know, except when they release the software and the .nfo. And different than OP i hate conspiracy theories because they say nothing and makes me nuts Prefer factual or at least solid information/data.

 

mac please

 

I cant say what i think here becouse i would get banned but i agree with you skeletor something weird is happening and that's why these brands softwares never get released

 

Don't worry, this is a real photo of R2R that I took when visiting his home a month ago . The job is almost done, and he says that if Avid comes through with the ransom you'all will just have to wait another year. If not we'll all get a nice stocking stuffer from Santa (whom I also recently visited, but he doesn't like his or his beautiful wife Noelle's image to be known by the masses...sorry...she's a real hottie, let me tell you). We'll just have to wait and see if we're on the "Naughty or Nice" list.

 

Pro Tools isn't worth cracking. There are better DAWs out there.

 

Sure the number 1 daw isnt worth cracking now tell me you achieve pro mixes with freeware and that all we need is reaper and surge xt to make good tracks LOL it aint april fools guys

 

Sure number 1 for Hollywood which is not really nowadays and also if it is that precious to you use your wallet. if you do not have that much money then you surely not on that level where you need it.

 

Pro Tools is one of those things that I honestly believe that if you NEED it, I'm pretty sure you can pay for it. Way too many alternatives that can do the same thing that are either cracked or accessible enough to buy. Other markets don't get this lucky, go take a look at video/photo editing and 3D modeling. It's very difficult to make money if you are not using one of the industry-sanctioned standards, but even that seems to be changing since Adobe keeps fucking up lately. I'd rather have R2R's efforts directed somewhere else (like Softube, UAD and Sonnox - even though I'm a paying customer).

 

Only way to really learn it is to use it. No different than any other. But you are right, it's why most people do not learn it, since they do not have access and no-one will hire them and give them a chance to learn it. Same with most of the nice large format console mixers. People try to BS their way into using (and almost never works). This stuff is way too easy to tell when someone does not have real experience.