Which DAW will take over the market?

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  1. Skeletor

    Skeletor Noisemaker

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    In truth, it probably should be, but alas, PT will hang on like a bad STD and the industry hasn't came up with a strong enough antibiotic to counteract it as of yet......
     
  2. Radio

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    Before I buy something, I usually read online reviews and when MusicRadar, SOS or Bonedo etc. identify negative points, most developers react and fix the errors in order to get their products to people. So public criticism usually works. There are some companies that just want to make money, I once asked a developer if they had summer sales or discounts, his clear answer was NO. I didn't buy his product.

    Another customer less. The Rob Papen effects have a graphical interface that is much too dark and I thought, what monitor does the developer use and does he test it on other monitors? Nope, that's it, no changes. Many developers could have more customers.
     
  3. Slapdash

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    Nothing's 'taking over' from Pro Tools, stop deluding yourself just because YOU don't like it. Every other DAW has fisher price controllers (vs D-Command / S6) save maybe for NUAGE, every other DAW has awful flaws in either the audio editing, big screen overview or mixing workflow - some are good at one thing but not the other - PT is GREAT at all of them (audio/mixing related). Still no other DAW has yet caught on to how vital that 'tape style' workflow of the one big edit screen with ALL INSERTS showing is, to workflow.

    There's many reasons far beyond your comprehension as to why PT is better and used more (still) than every other DAW with their gimmicks and short-lived niceties.
     
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  4. Incontro

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    Sorry! Please delete this post (not the whole thread) ... I wanted to post in another thread.
     
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  5. El digital

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  6. DoubleTake

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    Well, it won't be Internet Ability, as it states it only functions on Japanese OS.
    I tried it from Sister Site & could not make it work.

    WELL !! I can't get it to run so far.
    I have the needed runtime, and tried some compatibility modes, but crashes after message to select audio device.
    (Option never comes to select - Ability closes )

    I wonder, after reading this:
    A witch says,
    ABILITY 4.0 Pro crashes at startup
    on non Japanese OS.


    Maybe some issue with that?
    I found on their website:
    "All are compatible with Japanese OS only
    64-bit version only", so maybe there was no witch's brew for this [​IMG]
     
  7. Radio

    Radio Audiosexual

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    Try setting your PC to Chinese font and it will probably work.
    で中国語の表記を設定するだけで、おそらく機能するでしょう。
     
  8. DoubleTake

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    Hmm.. Google translates:
    It will probably work if you just set the Chinese notation with.
    :bow:
    But wouldn't it be Japanese? There was a font provided, which i did install. (InMusicSym.ttf)
     
  9. Radio

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    Yes R2R live in Japan...! Japanese characters of course.
     
  10. Auen Fred

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    its just a trick they live in bulgaria
     
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  11. taskforce

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    While i can generally agree on the latter, that is the audio part of PT, i can't imagine anyone sane enough to dish out a little less than 130K for a S6 M40-24-9-D. Hollywood and other money laundering sources may very well do what they please. On a normal production/shooting day they easily burn thousands on pizza delivery tips lol.
    But Avid... Oh man... Remember you are talking about the same guys who used to charge 800$ for a typical empty 24U rack (normal price 180-200), only it had a Digidesign logo haha. So it's funny, blaming the other controllers for being essentially "toys" when the price of the S4/S6 you are referring to, which is a glorified midi controller and nothing else, rivals the price of REAL large format consoles like Neve and SSL among other high end brands. So in direct comparison to something like a 32ch/48 fader Neve Genesys Black (fully analog path, digital control, dedicated 16fader DAW control mid section), any midi controller eats shit and enjoys it too and the S6 is no exception. Actually the Neve model i mention (~120K) is 10K less than the S6 model. That alone should save you some change for those pizza tips :)
    The only scenario where i can see a huge S6 rig applicable & viable is mixing from recorded material in PT for film. I would still want the safety and comfort of a top end real console, but it's manageable with plugs and perhaps some outboard albeit questionable. For music purposes, i'd take a Neve or an SSL and a good set of high end AD/DA converters and call it a day for the rest of my life. And i wouldn't give a rat's ass what the software is hehe.
    So, Avid control hardware is just an absurdly-overpriced-made-in-China high end Lego in a Fischer Price world and nothing more. Whereas Neve and SSL are the Bugattis and Lamborghinis of the audio spectrum. My bottom line, although PT excels in audio rec/mix, Avid sells zircons for diamonds. Some will give in to such an ecosystem be it voluntarily because their line of clientele demands it or falling victim of words like workflow and blah which are quite irrelevant as far as to what music creation is really about, and some will steer away as by now it smells sepsis and Avid execs' fat asses farts.
    Cheers.
    Ps: And for those who don't know, Avid needs no backers or supporters etc., they easily have more money than all other audio soft companies combined. (Define the number of exclamation marks in the end yourself)
     
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  12. Melodic Reality

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    hahahahahhahahahaha
     
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  14. Radio

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    Money Money Money ...

    Pro Tools has lost large market shares to FL Studio, Apple Logic Pro or Ableton Live.

    - The billionaire investor STG has taken over Avid
    - FL Studio manufacturer Image-Line has taken over the plugin companies Melda, UVI, WA Production and Producer Loops
    - Investor Francisco Partners took over Native Instruments, Izotope and Plugin Alliance
     
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    Yep true and correctly pointed out, happened last year and the "acquisition" was for 1.4 billion US$. This is by far the largest, most expensive acquisition in the world of audio soft/hardware ever.
    In comparison, so people reading this thread understand what the stakes are, Yamaha acquired Steinberg for 28.5 million. They spent that pizza tip change on Steinberg lol.
    Cheers mate
     
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    Which DAW will take over the market?

    Avid.ProTools.2024-[R2R]
    or
    Avid.ProTools.2024-[TeamV.R]
    :wink:
     
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  17. tommyzai

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    No DAW will take over the market. They all do about the same thing, but there are very distinct flavors to each and each user has different taste. Tzai has spoken!
     
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  18. Incontro

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    Choosing a DAW is very important. Every DAW has been specialized for certain tasks and certain genres. Some things are common between DAWs, but some things are proprietary. The more serious the music genre becomes, the more specific DAWs are required. Choosing the wrong DAW from the beginning has a negative effect on people's way of thinking and leads them towards certain genres. Anyone should carefully study the genres they want to work in first, then choose a specific DAW. Some genres of music are done better in some DAWs and with more difficulty in others.

    But there is a general principle:
    As the music genre becomes more serious, the user's choices are directed to the 4 DAWs that I wrote in the first post, and other DAWs are gradually abandoned.
     
  19. tori

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    What about people who make music in different genres? It's not that uncommon that a video game composer makes music in many genres, and they are capable to do all of it in one daw. And what is serious music? At least you're right about that many of that people use the 4 daws you mentioned, because they are the most extensive. But FL Studio, Ableton and in (the future maybe) Bitwig are much more popular with younger people so it's huge nonsense that they are used "not as much as before". They are completely not at risk to lose anything lol.
     
  20. DontKnowJack

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    Have you asked your doctor about Incontro? I have and he said hell no.
     
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