I do not use Ableton as FL is my main DAW, but since it is a script you could learn from it as a starting point for your device to make it usable in Ableton. Good question i don't know if its patented or not. Here is the Homepage for the Script. https://isotonikstudios.com/product/crossfire/. Also the Fire NFX 2 Script by Warbeats https://github.com/nfxbeats/FIRE-NFX-V2 could be useful as it has some nice functions for FL integrated like switching presets.

Coding the Hardware in C is clever since its with C++ the closest language to Hardware the only one above would be Assembler. The Python Script is only there to make the Hardware and FL unterstand each other as i understood?

 

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Thanks for the links, I will study the question for Ableton users.

There is already on my side a work with the script functions of FL studio, in fact I first tested the script possibilities then thought of a hardware for those implementation (like the akai FIRE).

Yes, that is the case. The hardware is C operated on the EQ hardware, generate / send / get midi commands, script do the processing of the midi message on the DAW (next eq plugin, get eq value for real time tweaking and adaptation for a preset).

 

So, I have been grinding in the dark a 3d render for my idea. I might not even finish the thing in real life, I underestimated the engineering part.

But here it is :

 

Like the song as well as the movie, you cut it down from 9 to 5 bands...which is still cool.

 

Hello,

Some updates,

I have done some other 3D render :



I have finished the design of the PCB :



And manufactured it. Now I am populating the pcb and doing some test :

 

IIRC, (sorry it's been since 2009-10 or so...), but you could port your own python scripts to Ableton as I used to do that with the original APC40, and some other devices... (I remember doing some editing on them, and it was as simple as dragging them into a particular folder), I don't know if they locked it down since then as they sell their Push devices and whatnot, but I kinda doubt it, as if anything they promote controllerism quite heavily, and with Max4Live etc, I'm pretty much 100% sure you could do it..

Heck, I remember mapping xbox and Wii controllers and the old RockBand Guitar etc, (and using their gyroscope functionality etc)... I'll have to see if I have those notes around here on some backup drive...

(sorry, I didn't see the second page of this thread! Your work looks fantastic! and you are farther along then I would have thought... congratulations, and best of luck with it!)...

I will be following this thread and your progress. Godspeed.

 

To be honest, I don't know python, and that is the part of the project that is still obscure to me. I am ok at designing electronics, the hardware, the machine code (the midi USB device / this knob send midi / this LED on ..), but the rest of it, most of people know more than me.

I worked with FL studio and recently they launched the ability to do many things with python (like recalling value of plugin and send back MIDI / searching a certain type of plugin and focus and many many other things).

I never touched other DAW, so maybe they are compatible to what I am searching to achieve ?

The hardware I am designing have features set mainly for any EQ plug (intended for fabfilter ProQ3), it basically send midi data like a simple MIDI controller (sends knob tweak information via MIDI, button press, etc). But it need data back like actual plugins values when a new plugin is selected, actual VU meter value / mixer channel info etc. It is compatible by whatever DAW that can send this data back with those informations in MIDI.
See front panel :


That is the main nuance from a normal midi controller, is that it is more immersive, a bit like the SSL console.

So.. maybe every DAW nowadays could do that ^^

Thank you man ! ;)


EDIT : here, clearer view of the functionnalities (not fixed)

 

Last edited: Dec 1, 2024

Some more updates :

I will not sell this product on the market. I live in europe, costs are high, and the market is tight.

Given the fact that I engineered with only high ends parts, the price for parts and fabrication only is 800€, as a rule of thumb for small series to be able to live you sell at least 3x the parts price, so thats a midi controller for 2400€. Certification price is 20000€ and every other costs mean impossible.

For anybody in france I look to sell the midi controller for the price of the parts only (around 800€). It's a tighly integrable midi controller, that can integrate with any daw that have scripting capabilities (ableton, studio one, fl studio, logic) Ideal for mix engineer, master engineer. With fl studio there will be VU/peak on master / live channel mixer, the midi controller can tweak every controllable parameters under fabfilter proq3 or any eq VST with live recall (frequency, curve, Q, gain, dynamic, M\S, auto gain), and possibility to create on the go instance of eq on channel, navigate through the instances of eq of a project, channel mixer name ect. It is possible to have that on other DAW. Contact me for more info.

Here are more blender render and photo:








For the one interested in more content, I have an instagram "midiacedie5"

Cheers

 

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