How to detect subliminals

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  1. a1000

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    Hi!
    I heard somewhere that expert audio engineers are able to detect if a given audio file includes any subliminal messages.
    Do any of you guys happen to be such an audio expert who knows techniques how to 100% confirm that an audio has absolutely no subliminal messages?

    I mean detecting subliminals in full mixes and in individual samples.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. Nefarai

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    What I usually do is just play the thing backwards, and if I hear Satan compelling me to do some dreadful act then there's a subliminal message. If not it's just usually a guitar or whatever.

    Hope that helps
     
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  4. Radio

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    The experts record the song on tape and play it slower and they play it backwards slowly. They then record the messages.

    If you listen carefully and you don't hear anything, you can publish it too.

    FROM WIKIOEADIA
    Many popular musicians were accused of including backmasked messages in their music. However, apparent backmasked messages may in fact be examples of pareidolia (the brain's tendency to recognize patterns in meaningless data), coincidental phonetic reversal, or as deliberate responses to the allegations themselves.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking
     
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    Subliminal messages are in many Death Metal songs, if you play them backwards you can clearly hear them praising Jesus.
     
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  6. Will Kweks

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    Ah, this contains the classic take on subliminal messages:

     
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    Here I'm wondering how to add subliminal messages in music :unsure:
     
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    Try a liminal-phase EQ and keep filtering until there's only sub-liminals left - works for me.
     
  9. Will Kweks

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    There's a clever one (not saying it's unique, but the only one that springs to mind) on a Nine Inch Nails track, I think on the Further Down the Spiral EP somewhere. It's a voice (screaming, actually) just repeatedly timestretched till it's way overlong. So if you listen to it normally you can't hear the words but if you fast forward over it you can pick it up.

    It's not exactly subliminal, more hidden in plain sight, as it's fairly loud though.
     
  10. Xupito

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    I seem to remember there's been a few of them. But it was basically high-tech trolling (back in the day, the reversed ones). Just a joke, no need to overthink them.
     
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    agreed on the hifi trolling ,at least it fits if looking on that time ,but also just partly ....manson and sort of scientology hippies are not a joke ....
    but if the jay z ones are real this no joke most def .

    also back when this came up ,ppl were much more aware of how heavy electronic media is able to program thru repeating in subconcoius context not direct info/missinfo.....
     
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  12. Auen Fred

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    back then , just 2 tape machines/recorders needed i guess
     
  13. Smeghead

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    If it's audible in any way it's literally not subliminal by definition. And if it's not audible anyway you don't actually hear it so there is no true such thing as subliminal.
     
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    Something something insert Bill Hicks quote
     
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    I didn't know about recent ones. I thought because now it's really easy they didn't that thing anymore. Which actually makes it a bit concerning.
    I'd look into that but man, I don't wanna end in another Puff Diddy's disturbing video
     
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    dont want open that box now , you will find mostly content makin fun of it and about plain shit but if you search long enough you find regular ppl not ytbers playin rap vinyls in reverse hearing the number of the bea.t .
    may be fake but from what i know from this bubble and surroundings to this day i would not wonder if its real .
     
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    Just suggest this topic to Benn Jordan, and after some time of intense research and investigation, travelling to the Mojave Desert and maybe Antarctica or Britain, he will present his findings extensively in an hour-long video :).
     
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    Except the artist's name is Eminem, who intentionally writes parts of his lyrics as palindromes...

    Which is quite remarkable. I can't imagine how long you have to tinker with it to make several coherent sentences in a row make sense both forwards and backwards.
     
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    The government has been putting subliminals in television programming since the 1950's, why worry about it now?.....They're everywhere, there's no escaping them........lol
     
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