APMastering guy strikes again. Your small studio monitors are a scam?

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by typical-love, Nov 27, 2024.

  1. GeekedGlitch

    GeekedGlitch Ultrasonic

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    Im sorry I hurt your feelings buddy.

    I can tell you that- modern speakers are generally so good, that you can choose them purely by looks. As well as microphones

    Just don't lie to yourself about "trusting your ear" and all this bullshit. I highly doubt that I ever will be able to blind test at least three pairs of speakers in my (!!!) place. Also add the possibility of EQ and here you have it
     
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    Good luck trying to do a "good record" of classical music using anything that is not a pair of speakers. Also good luck translating it into anything too
     
  3. ziked

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    as long as your speakers (or headphones) are decent and don't fart (blow out) at certain frequencies or volume levels, you can make beautiful music on them.
     
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  4. shinjiya

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    If I put well mixed classical music into my headphones, then I know how well mixed classical music is supposed to sound like. Any serious engineer will also check their mixes, may it be from headphones to speakers or speakers to headphones. Hard to understand all this crying over some pair of speakers mounted in your head instead of your walls.
     
  5. GeekedGlitch

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    Nah, you really don't. You see - you began talking now about a tandem, about profs using speakers AND headphones together. But you clearly don't know a thing about how is classical music mixing structured, what are the requirements to room and speakers for good translation.

    And to stop you from manipulating with words, I'll repeat more clearly: try to make a classical record translate well into a smartphone speaker or car sound system. You will probably will 'know' how it should sound then, right?
     
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    I'm starting to feel the same way, but not about the video.
     
  7. DoubleTake

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    But why would anyone play classical music on a smartphone, or in a car?
    One should only listen to classical music live and in a proper hall from the 8th row with pinky extended.
     
  8. typical-love

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    i think every speaker/ monitors can work, as long as you know how the frequency response curve affects the output of the source.

    If you know that you can predict, how turning up the EQ at points sounds on a good system, now of course this shouldnt be the solution, but sometimes its the only option, because of budget reasons.
    I went this route once, and only found out that one of the producers, which does fine music for years, has the same monitors than i have, so i guess its also a skill issue. Despite having the money he didnt replace them with better ones. He just knows them, he said.

    There are people out there, doing great sounding music on cheap e.g. logitech sound systems, just saying.

    and tbh i dont like such videos, its just x mins blabla, alone how he setup the video, im like NO, adding the voice how he talks, i skip the video entirely.
     
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    No, the Yamaha monitor speakers HS5S and HS8S are good. They sound really neutral and clean which monitor speakers should. They are well built and last over time. At the beginning they might sound flat if you are not used to listen to that kind of speakers.
     
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    Reviews on equipment purchases? Gearslutz (space). See what the big boys think about it - fk TikTok, etc.. imo.
     
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    Based on that theory, you'd need elephant ears to be a good engineer.:rofl:
     
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    all great sound engineers have them, they are just good at hiding them.
     
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    A high born elephant, may I add. You'll need the ears of the elephant and the deep pocket of the aristrocracy to own a pair of the 125.000 monitors he is talking about. :rofl:
     
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    Does it sound good to you, your mix? Give it a big tick and move on

    Someone has to say it, that unless your tune is aimed at every single streaming site on the market, there is a high possibility some people will end up hearing it on 1/2" shitty phone speakers or badly EQ'd cheap phone headphones. Having incredible speakers is nice, but all the greatest engineering in the world won't save you from a horrible listening device. :rofl:
     
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    I stopped paying attention to that guy when realized he uses Kirkoff EQ while knowing about Equilibrium's existence(for mastering btw).
     
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    one man's facts are often another's opinion. Facts are slippery and rely on other facts to be proven, the problem is often the underlying facts change or were wrong propagating errors to all other facts reliant upon them.

    Facts are the dreams of the waking world. Hard and firm and when wrestled and bent to reality often crumbling like dust from another world held in place only by the hopes of the men who made them.

    I prefer baked goods, especially cookies, thats something you can really rely on, if only for a moment with a cup of coffee or tea. Everything before and after is illusion, only the cup and the cookie and the moment is real.

    Truth is in fact a fine tasty baked good, though sometimes the proof is in the pudding..
     
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