First of all, big compliments @ArcticStorm for still thinking, because that's just the beginning.

The following points are worth thinking about:
- The end is always a new beginning.
- The journey is the destination.
- People have endless creativity but a finite life.
- You can't reinvent the wheel twice

Klaus Schulze (musician) was once asked whether everything hadn't already been played, he said there are still many possibilities in arranging.
I think we should revive the 80s and bring back Italo Disco, but with modern instruments and a contemporary tempo. We should also replace the kick drum with a conga drum.

A lot of music sounds the same these days. I think only more intelligence and education will help us progress, but we can't reinvent the wheel.
Jean Michelle Jarre said: We devote ourselves to a musical problem and try to solve it.

I think we should look at other cultures and listen to what they do. Maybe you should start from scratch: break an ice floe and record the break and use the cracking sound as a snare, edit the cry/call of a bird as a vocal and duplicate it. Maybe you should just play metal music without distortion and then see what you can do with it.

If you're bored and are good at something, you should create learning videos, if you're good at speaking, maybe make a few podcasts.
If you can play an instrument, you can teach others something. Maybe you should just play metal music without distortion and then see what you can do with it.

There are 8.2 billion people living on this planet - that means 8.2 billion possibilities.

 

Lyrically I don't believe I've used other's compositional ideas in a song of mine. Early on in my musical journey the few times I had an inkling that I was being derivative I radically changed direction and quashed it then and there. I enjoy speaking in my own unique voice and strive to be innovative in relationship to myself even now in my mid sixties. For instance, the last few songs I've written employ "normal" chord structure, the lyrics are coming solely from reflections of memories I've garnered over the years in direct experience infused by my current filter of the moment, the melodies unconsciously spewing out in a knee jerk reaction. Even since I've been doing this for now about 50 years I can't really give advice as I feel that everyone has their own trip in regard to their creative side and that what might either work or not for me might not fit anyone else's flow. Some sit at a desk when they wake up, others do their best in the wee hours. I used to use for years a green #2 graphite pencil from a local supermarket on an unlined piece of paper, now I need to use a frixion erasing roller ball in a lined notebook or nothing comes to me. Software programs are worthless to me.

I probably haven't satisfied your query though.

 

There is a mathematical model on statistical physics that explains why the anticonforming unintentionally become the expected, so pursuing pure originality is itself another trap we can fall in. I don't know if there is a proper way of mixing things either and if they can be mixed in a clean and new manner. For me mixing is messy by definition, cause entropy.

The only thing I can say about it is that most original creative outputs I enjoyed in life were always a group effort, even if the outcomes were signed by individuals. A bunch of likeminded people who set some rules about any creative endeavor and produce art while trying upholding them. So if you, with some others, make some rules about how things are supposed to be mixed in a clean a new manner (no matter if the rules make sense at all, just make some and agreed on them) you have given yourself a nice creative framework that you will enjoy producing in.

 

so in that context what is genre other than remixing ?

 

its more intuitive for me at this point yo, like a reflex; i just know what comes next, where to go or whats right - im playing until i get that feeling im trying to express, or i contemplate and play with words, til what i want to say is what i feel in an honest way. the feelings im trying to express are the most important thing

thats why i love fell in love with music as an artist. its like a energetic release or letting go, giving me a better understanding of things ive experienced afterwards, thats very therapeutic and makes me feel better. when i listen to something i recorded afterwards, its an expression of how i felt. only thing i worry about is: if its authentic to me and what im trying to express. the public will have their own say on stuff like its its new or not; i cant control what they think of it

 

Everybody stands in everything she/he/it does on anybody's shoulder.

In nature/universe everything that exists comes from anything that was before.

Everything is a result of a cause that was before.

So ... there is never invented anything completely new from scratch. Everything is a - maybe somewhat new - combination of things that were before. Nothing comes from nothing.

 

When you come into the world, i.e. are born, your brain is empty and clear like a 10 liter bucket of water.
Every day you absorb information and the water in the bucket becomes more and more unclear until it ends up being a dark broth.
(From a monk from a monastery).

You can only think what you have read, heard and maybe even dreamed. Conclusion: The more you have read, seen and heard, the greater your knowledge and your horizon of consciousness and the possibilities of thinking.

You learn to solve problems as a child. The better you can solve problems, the further you get, which means you don't give up on the first failed attempt but try at least three times.

I once read a book by "Professor Frank Sikora - The New Jazz Harmony Theory" - subtitle: Understanding - Listening - Playing, From Theory to Improvisation. I didn't understand 3/4 of the book at all, but it's nice to know what you could learn.

In the last third of the book he teaches his students how to listen and analyse correctly and differently....! They listened to the great masters and the students were asked to say what they understood from the piece. Because later on they want to lead an orchestra themselves or write film music etc.!

The first music people made was probably a bone on a tree trunk, then bamboo flutes, strings made of tendons and drums made of wood, since industrialisation and computer technology people have been building the machines that make music themselves, this is called technological progress.

A lot of it is trial and error. Listen to other keys (copied from wikipedia): ordinary major and minor pentatonic, the twelve lu of Chinese music, the Japanese pentatonic, the Indian pentatonic, the slendro of Java, the pélog from Indonesia, the whole tone scale (hexatonic, six tones), the heptatonic scales (seven tones): the major scale, the various minor scales (pure or natural minor, harmonic minor, melodic minor), the church scales (Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Locrian, etc.), the acoustic scale, the Phrygian dominant scale, the gypsy scales (“gypsy major” and “gypsy minor”) with two one-and-a-half tone steps, the harmonic major scale, the mi-sheberach scale, the altered scale, the enigmatic scale, etc.

All You Ever Wanted to Know About Klaus Schulze (1947-2022) ---> www.klaus-schulze.com
Inspiring interviews and knowledge transfer: www.klaus-schulze.com/interv/welcome.htm

 

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cut all input ....
think of a writer which goes onto contryside in a lonely house to write a book ...
some painters to the same others quite the opposite ...
genres in painting art are not lets say so static
like genres in music...music is straight math and dirt brings the shizzle...
i dunno man....cut all musical input for a while and look what happens ....may be hard thing to do for you...i only hearing music while working out these days and could not cut all input thats why i gone 66bpm and halftime to fly a bit in my own spheres...but adequate breaks are hard to find for that bpm bla bla

 

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When you wrote this post you was using words, phrases, notions etc. borrowed from other people. And what?

 

Ive heard 70s,80s,90s,2000s, & so on remixed! The list is never ending! What we had back in the day was real musicians/bands & so on. But today we have a laptop/PC & no new/good ideas! So people think i can make a better version of that.. which some sound crap

 

Yes, we are, or it seems that we are, but I think is only a perception. Innovation and fresheness on art is tied a LOT to inovation and freshness on scientific discoveries (those change how we percive the world) and techonological advances (those allows new medias to explore). The thing, as they point in the video, the media (social platforms are king, cause traditional media is subordinate to them as well) we took our inspiration from is designed to homogenize, so only the similar and recognocible gets into the surface. Also we hit a technological plateau. We've been with electronic music 70 years now for and almost 40 years producing with computers involved. I hear someone said that if you take Apex Twin 30 years back from the 90s people will run in circles trying to save their lives from the sorcery of the sound. But if you take something edgy from 2024 30 years back, people will ask if that is from Aphex Twin and move on. It's not a bad thing per se, is just the zeitgeist we have been born in. Now diffusion models are here, and I'm sure something truly new, fresh and unexpected will come out of them, as it happens in the past multiple times with other tools and media.