How to deal with remixing ideas vs. completely your own ideas?

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  1. ArticStorm

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    I recently thought about how everything in the world just seems to be a remix of something from the past and im wondering how the musicians deal with it here.

    For example you have an idea for a lyric, inspiration came from a situation from your daily life, but upon crafting the lyric, you fall into the trap - using ideas from other music compositions.
    How to avoid that?

    Now i know - we always kinda remix things, take 3 things and put them together in a new context - but the problem i have is that it should be done in a clean and totally new manner.

    Cant wait for your opinions and input! :disco:
     
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  3. Radio

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    First of all, big compliments @ArcticStorm for still thinking, because that's just the beginning.

    The following points are worth thinking about:
    - The end is always a new beginning.
    - The journey is the destination.
    - People have endless creativity but a finite life.
    - You can't reinvent the wheel twice

    Klaus Schulze (musician) was once asked whether everything hadn't already been played, he said there are still many possibilities in arranging.
    I think we should revive the 80s and bring back Italo Disco, but with modern instruments and a contemporary tempo. We should also replace the kick drum with a conga drum.

    A lot of music sounds the same these days. I think only more intelligence and education will help us progress, but we can't reinvent the wheel.
    Jean Michelle Jarre said: We devote ourselves to a musical problem and try to solve it.

    I think we should look at other cultures and listen to what they do. Maybe you should start from scratch: break an ice floe and record the break and use the cracking sound as a snare, edit the cry/call of a bird as a vocal and duplicate it. Maybe you should just play metal music without distortion and then see what you can do with it.

    If you're bored and are good at something, you should create learning videos, if you're good at speaking, maybe make a few podcasts.
    If you can play an instrument, you can teach others something. Maybe you should just play metal music without distortion and then see what you can do with it.

    There are 8.2 billion people living on this planet - that means 8.2 billion possibilities.
     
  4. Lois Lane

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    Lyrically I don't believe I've used other's compositional ideas in a song of mine. Early on in my musical journey the few times I had an inkling that I was being derivative I radically changed direction and quashed it then and there. I enjoy speaking in my own unique voice and strive to be innovative in relationship to myself even now in my mid sixties. For instance, the last few songs I've written employ "normal" chord structure, the lyrics are coming solely from reflections of memories I've garnered over the years in direct experience infused by my current filter of the moment, the melodies unconsciously spewing out in a knee jerk reaction. Even since I've been doing this for now about 50 years I can't really give advice as I feel that everyone has their own trip in regard to their creative side and that what might either work or not for me might not fit anyone else's flow. Some sit at a desk when they wake up, others do their best in the wee hours. I used to use for years a green #2 graphite pencil from a local supermarket on an unlined piece of paper, now I need to use a frixion erasing roller ball in a lined notebook or nothing comes to me. Software programs are worthless to me.

    I probably haven't satisfied your query though.
     
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    There is a mathematical model on statistical physics that explains why the anticonforming unintentionally become the expected, so pursuing pure originality is itself another trap we can fall in. I don't know if there is a proper way of mixing things either and if they can be mixed in a clean and new manner. For me mixing is messy by definition, cause entropy.

    The only thing I can say about it is that most original creative outputs I enjoyed in life were always a group effort, even if the outcomes were signed by individuals. A bunch of likeminded people who set some rules about any creative endeavor and produce art while trying upholding them. So if you, with some others, make some rules about how things are supposed to be mixed in a clean a new manner (no matter if the rules make sense at all, just make some and agreed on them) you have given yourself a nice creative framework that you will enjoy producing in.
     
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    so in that context what is genre other than remixing ?
     
  7. Grape Ape

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    its more intuitive for me at this point yo, like a reflex; i just know what comes next, where to go or whats right - im playing until i get that feeling im trying to express, or i contemplate and play with words, til what i want to say is what i feel in an honest way. the feelings im trying to express are the most important thing

    thats why i love fell in love with music as an artist. its like a energetic release or letting go, giving me a better understanding of things ive experienced afterwards, thats very therapeutic and makes me feel better. when i listen to something i recorded afterwards, its an expression of how i felt. only thing i worry about is: if its authentic to me and what im trying to express. the public will have their own say on stuff like its its new or not; i cant control what they think of it
     
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    Everybody stands in everything she/he/it does on anybody's shoulder.

    In nature/universe everything that exists comes from anything that was before.

    Everything is a result of a cause that was before.

    So ... there is never invented anything completely new from scratch. Everything is a - maybe somewhat new - combination of things that were before. Nothing comes from nothing.
     
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