AI midi tools - who's doing it best?

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  1. Matt Pook

    Matt Pook Newbie

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    I'm regularly seeing ads for AI tools that generate midi based on parameters. Anyone used any? Are they any good?
    Half of me thinks it could speed up the creative process, the other half of me thinks they're just trying to exploit people who don't want to learn.
    I can see how they could spark an idea...but which one is worth trying?
     
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  3. shinyzen

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    AIVA is very powerful, although a bit pricy. Worth it if you will use it. There is a free version of three or so per month.

    Toool is an iOS app that is extremely intuitive, Fast, easy to use, and excellent results. You can export stems and midi very quickly. Full customizable or just roll with what it gives you. Affordable subscription at 3.99 a month or so

    Songen is another iOS app thats similar to Toool, more genres, but not as good as toool. Still fun and can achieve some good results. 9.99 per month

    Re:midi by songwish is not so much AI, as it is a midi sampler. So you can load up a midi, and chop it up and replay it like a traditional sampler. Really cool, comes loaded with tons of copyright free classical, gospel, etc songs.

    The "feel your sound" plugins are well worth looking into. excellent results, usually pretty intuitive, affordable, fun to use, nice and passionate dev worth supporting.
     
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  5. DoubleTake

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    Get a really long Midi cable.
    Start recording MIDI on your DAW of choice.

    Handful of marbles + a few ping-pong balls.
    Throw them all down the basement stairs.

    Or just get a cat
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    Toontrack EZKeys 2. The Bandmate feature is AI-like, even if it is not really AI. Bounce a render of the track you are working on to a short loop wav file, and then load that into bandmate. It does key detection pretty well, and then it can start generating midi loops to fit, which you can drag out of the plugin into other DAW tracks with other virtual instruments loaded on them.

    it isn't perfect, but it is surprisingly good.
     
  7. shinyzen

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    how could i forget Scaler 2!! very very powerful. easy to use, extremely deep if needed. Tons of starting points and ways to tweak the midi. affordable. must have
     
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    DonCaballero Producer

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    I haven't tested everything, but AI is the new flashy buzzword used to market all sorts of questionable products with a pretty loose definition of term.

    Who's doing it "best" will be up to interpretation, but personally I like this approach :wink::

    ✅Research published in a peer-reviewed journal and presented at an academic conference [International Society for Music Information Retrieval (ISMIR)].
    ✅Free and open-source.
    ✅Ability to fine-tune the model with your own MIDI.
    ✅Integrates into my DAW of choice and creates/modifies items directly on the timeline using keyboard shortcuts.
    ✅No marketing, hype, or YouTubers shilling affiliate links.


    Composer's Assistant: An Interactive Transformer for Multi-Track MIDI Infilling

     
  9. jake cambridge

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    been using midimate.com for some basic midi chord/melody generation - helped speed up a few of my recent productions.
     
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    Business is in full swing, money is being made again. AI is the new hype. But the technology is only just beginning. This one from Google seems promising. I haven't tested it, hence the data below.

    Google Magenta is a hub for music and artificial intelligence today. Anyone who uses a DAW and enjoys new plugins should check out the free Magenta Studio suite. It includes five applications. Here’s a quick overview of how they work:

    • Continue – Continue lets users upload a MIDI file and leverage Magenta’s music transformer to extend the music with new sounds. Keep your temperature setting close to 1.0-1.2, so that your MIDI output sounds similar to the original input but with variations.
    • Drumify – Drumify creates grooves based on the MIDI file you upload. They recommend uploading a single instrumental melody at a time, to get the best results. For example, upload a bass line and it will try to produce a drum beat that compliments it, in MIDI format.
    • Generate – Maybe the closest tool in the collection to a ‘random note generator’, Generate uses a Variational Autoencoder (MusicVAE) and has trained on millions of melodies and rhythms within its dataset.
    • Groove – This nifty tool takes a MIDI drum track and uses Magenta to modify the rhythm slightly, giving it a more human feel. So if your music was overly quantized or had been performed sloppily, Groove could be a helpful tool.
    • Interpolate This app asks you for two separate MIDI melody tracks. When you hit generate, Magenta composes a melody that bridges them together.
     
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    Looks like that has narrowed down to being only for Ableton Live, the v1.0 now abandoned.
     
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    Even if it's not AI, Scaler is the one that i can make more complex stuff and build, for example, 4 different cohesive chord progressions for the same key and vibe for each section of a song. Especially when you're not into conventional pop stuff that repeats the same chord progression all over the song, it can bring fast and adaptative workflow.
     
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    I just recently got a pro sub of fadr.com/stems. it actually surprised me how well the midi turned out from the split stems.I wouldn't use their stem splitter as it has way too much artifacting happening. UVR for splitting is a go-to for me.
     
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