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  1. zpaces

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    So you wanna install Hackintosh to run a DAW which also runs on a PC?
    Makes absolutely no sense! The key to a better performance on a macOS is the Mac ARM architecture!
    Get a Mac or keep your Windows-PC.
     
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  2. Myfanwy

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    No, Logic uses only the performance cores on Apple Silicon, even if you enable all cores. Just google it or try for yourself.
     
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    Again just that usual fanboy bullshit. As I said, I really love my M1 Air as it's really efficient and portable. But all "high end" Macs are just a rip off charging totally overpriced RAM and SSD parts. My new AMD PC with a properly sized air cooler is nearly dead silent putting out 90 Diva instances, while the M2 Max MacBook Pro has to be manually set to full 6000 rpm fans to not to throttle.
     
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    And neither does Steinberg..
     
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    As long as there is no public business involved, Absolutely not.
     
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    A big part of this "always running cool AND fast" scam is due to (useless) SHORT benchmarks.
    Run a 1 hour video rendering on Apple M and see how it is blowing full noise AND throttling :winker:
    Same goes with anything heavy loaded.

    Do an half hour stress test on Apple M and see by yourself.

    Some example :
     
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    Yea, that's why my Logic runs on at least six cores on my iMac M3! :rofl:
    F*ck Google, bro!

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    Don't do it. You will regret it.
     
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  9. zpaces

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    Do you actually know how an ARM architecture works?
    All components must be coordinated with each other. You can't just add a random SSD to it.

    Feel free to use a knife to scrape off the RAM from the Mac-CPU!
     
  10. Myfanwy

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    Obviously you don't know much about it yourself. SSD memory is not part of the SoC itself, it's soldered to the board in MacBooks, and if it's soldered or not doesn't say anything about the price of the memory modules.

    Additionally, the SSD in the Mac Studio isn't even soldered, it's an exchangeable module that looks just like an M.2 drive:

    https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...-upgrade-mac-studio-internal-ssd-storage.html

    But it's a proprietary format, and Apple prevents any user interaction.

    You can buy a Samsung 990 Pro 4TB M.2 SSD with 6900 MB/s write and 7450 MB/s read speeds for 280,- Euros.

    If you buy a Mac Studio with 4TB SSD instead of 1TB you have to pay 1150,- more, so you pay 1150,- Euros for the extra 3TB of flash modules, that's 1533,- Euros for 4 TB.

    And that's 5.5 times the price of the Samsung drive.

    Edit: And the price of the Samsung drive is an end-user price, the NAND modules itself are much cheaper.
     
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  12. Emma Evi

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    The question is do you like to keep using Windows or prefer macOS.

    1.) If you like to keep using Windows
    do it.

    2.) If you prefer macOS
    Get a, mac or build a hackintosh, if you like to spend time maintaining, but saving money.

    Besides that, with a Hackintosh, you can never be sure where an error originated.

    It’s also difficult to communicate with developers if you’re using an illegal Hackintosh.
    That might be fine if you don’t use any legitimate software and don’t care about getting issues fixed.

    Some decades ago, I had an issue with my RME audio interfaces. RME asked for information, and I provided it. However, as soon as they realized I was using a Hackintosh, they immediately ended support.​
     
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  13. zpaces

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    This is just a common platitude of Mac haters I read every day.
    Ever heard of external SSDs? Choose the lowest internal SSD configuration and connect an external SSD of your choice via thunderbolt and you are fine! So why bother about prices? Are you really that stubborn?

    I prove you two times wrong about Logic and RAM, but you're pointing on things you think it's an argument. But it's just you making things like SSD complicated, when's it's very easy.
     
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  14. Myfanwy

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    External SSDs may be fine in the studio or the office, but no, I don't want to carry one around when using my MacBook. I'm no Mac hater, I love using my Air every day. I'm just saying that Apple rips off people buying higher specced Macs.

    The RAM on the SoC may be an argument, but prices for upgrades still are way off.

    You don't need to prove anything, neither did you. You can't trust the Logic CPU meter and there are for sure some things running on the efficiency cores, but no audio processing. And that's been proven to be true in many reviews that show full usage of power cores and nearly no usage of efficiency cores inside Logic. Just one example:



    The same problem exists also with some Windows software with intel 12th generation CPUs and later due to the problems running realtime audio threads on cores with different abilities and power.

    You call me a stubborn Mac hater? That's what Apple fanboys call other people when someone criticises their holy Apple universe.

    Edit: Let's stop being off-topic. The answer to the question is already given. Use any system you want, but as a Cubase-Windows user switching to Mac makes no sense money- and power-wise, because the hackintosh-route is either slow (old intel CPUs) or risky (patched kernal for AMD CPUs).
     
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  15. Emma Evi

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    And now back to topic
     
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