Hello
Hackintosh its worth for music production ?
I used hackintosh for many years working great !
I want completely switch to macOS for music production from windows 11
Its logical for do this ?
My DAW is Cubase ,
Cubase Pro v.r in macOS is stable for working everyday without problem ? Mixing , arranging , mastering , recording ?

 

Some folks praise M series machines with Cubase

dunno if all that is 1:1 applicable for Intel machine, especially hackintosh, but it doesn't hurt to try on separate drive, do some test's and make your own mind about it.

 

I have Hackintosh installed , i have all of needed plugins for music production
also i have legit cubase pro 13 but somebodies tell me for use all steinberg products likes: spectralayer , dorico , groove agent and etc ...
you need to remove legit license and switch to V.R patch
i can skip legit license, but k'd version must be works fine
you told about M Series with Cubase
i should tell you Cubase working fine in intel hackintosh !
my friends tested

 

Been building and using "hackintoshes" for many years, but I think it's not very useful today, at least for new builds. Apple will abandon intel code sooner or later, and some new functions already only work on Apple Silicon machines.

You can get much better hardware for less money that runs Windows 11 and future versions than "hackintosh"-compatible hardware which possibly doesn't work anymore with the next update of macOS. The last fully compatible CPUs were intel 10th generation and GPUs were older AMD ones, so both about 5 years old. There are Open Core patches for newer CPUs, but I would avoid this route for best compatibility.

If you would like to use Logic Pro, that would be a reason to try it. But as you use Cubase, is doesn't make any sense in my opinion.

 

I believe that cubase has a stable performance on M series Mac.
I saw something somewhere talking bout cubase can use all the cores in those chips, and it beats Logic Pro, Studio One, Ableton already.

But intel? I'm not sure bout that.
I think intel is left in the past to apple, they would never get back to it again.

 

Last edited: Oct 7, 2024

Apple parts will finally end the support of its Intel devices in the next 2 years!
When this happens, there will be no Hackintashi!
Microsoft Windows is a good operating system, but in the interest of money
Windows can be a very good operating system
Both in terms of security, stability, and most importantly, good performance
But Windows 11 only differs from Windows 10 in its artificial intelligence and finally its new user interface
that this user interface has caused the operating system to load by mistake!
I do not like these things at all
Unlike Apple, Microsoft pursues its goal and does not care about users at all!
The goal is nothing but money
All in all, this is not a reason to abandon Windows
I have used both operating systems for years and generally each has its advantages and disadvantages
So with this account, I only work with Cubase, so there is no reason for me to go to Mac


And at the end it goes without saying:
There is always a crack problem in Mac OS
But in Windows, we can always use the latest plugins

 

I used lomng time a hackintosh and once they announced the M1 i bought an macMini. Best decision ever imo But i would consider just buying the DAW which you use. less hassle. the VR versions require you to disable SIP, which alloes the crack to monify anything it likes which might result in trouble in some cases later on. How can you trust a possible compromised OS? nYou will never know if a crash was casued by it lateron

 

I abandoned hackintosh some years ago.
So yes Apple will end hackintosh soon ... but they ended Apple computers for me long ago with their "more protections" in each OSX release

If you want to stay in Apple eco system, real M cpu is mandatory (to me).
And if you liked OSX, yes switching can be a good thing.
It is a very nice OS.

If you go "sister site" scene releases, compare what you can install

 

I made a quick comparison a few days ago with the "Logic Pro Diva Benchmark" that was floating around the web but unfortunately is not available on the website anymore. It contains a loop of chords playing a Diva patch with 6 notes polyphony in "great" accuracy mode, and Diva is a real CPU hog. I also rebuilt the same test in Reaper both on macOS and Windows machines I could get access to. This is how many instances I was able to run:

Logic Pro 11 - MacBook M1 Air - about 26 (using only the 4 power cores)
Logic Pro 11 - MacBook M2 Max - about 55 (using only the 8 power cores)
Reaper - MacBook M1 Air - about 38 (using all 4 power and 4 efficiency cores)
Reaper - MacBook M2 Max - about 70 (using all 8 power and 4 efficiency cores)
Reaper - Win 10 - intel 12700 - about 35
Reaper - Win 11 - AMD 7800X3D - about 90

Diva seems to be pretty badly optimized for the intel CPU on Windows, but the new AMD CPUs are really great!

Now let's compare prices, the M2 Max MacBook was about 3500,- Euros, the AMD PC build was about 1000,- Euros (without dedicated GPU).

So for me it's an obvious choice for any Windows compatible software. I love my MacBook M1 Air and work with Logic Pro but concerning pure CPU power per price, the new AMD CPUs totally beat Apple.

On the other hand, there are people who already built AMD Ryzen "hackintoshes", so it would be interesting how compatible and fast this works. And you can get 64 GB of RAM for about 200 Euros. Unfortunately, I have no compatible graphics card for my 7800X3D PC, so I can't test this myself.

 

deleteme

 

My Specs is :
CPU : Intel Core i9 9900K
Ram : 64GB DDR4 3200mhz
GPU : NVIDIA GTX 1660 TI Palit ( As you know, NVIDIA is not able to use in Hackintosh since 2017 )

IMPORTANT NOTE :
( I only use NVIDIA in Linux for my VFX Work , Because of having CUDA cores )
When i want to use Hackintosh , i temporarily disable NVIDIA in Output Display ( This is a very useful technique ) , with this way we are able to
Use a Hackintosh with an iGPU without removing the NVIDIA card from the PCIe slot! After setting the settings in the BIOS, We just have to do connect the HDMI cable to the HDMI input of the motherboard! FINISH

SSD : 2x Samsung EVO 860 500GB
HDD : 4TB WD Blue

 

There is not all that much of a "crack problem" if you have a fast machine. You can just run the Windows plugins in either Crossover/Whiskey or Parallels Desktop with Audiogridder. Software with VMProtect will only be possible to run in Parallels. Like always, some things just won't work, but the majority will. There is a nice spreadsheet available which shows what are known to work fine and what won't. You can't really just look at Audioz and expect to find everything k'd for Mac shared there, because it is not. If you already have a Linux setup, you know how to use a bootloader like LiLo or Grub to handle your Windows/Linux dual boot installations, or can figure it out. Or use Bootcamp if supported.

Just remember that using anything in a VM is going to introduce some latency. So if you need to use those plugins for realtime recording of instruments, such as guitar; using Windows plugins virtualized will not be optimal. For mixing, who cares. External hardware latency compensation will not work correctly in those scenarios, because the external device cannot be used to measure the roundtrip ping.

 

Last edited: Oct 7, 2024

i know we can run windows plugins inside macOS with these softwares!
but if i want to use windows i can switch to windows ssd which i installed windows 11 on...
as a result, there is no need to install VM softwares on my macOS (Hackintosh)
plugins and vst's for macOS, i have downloaded ( anythings i needed )
like : PA bundle , IK multimedia , Waves and etc ...
my mean was for cubase pro 13 k'd ( V.R ) , i want to know this C13 k'd
working good and without bugs ? in other word , working like legit version ?
I need to install other Steinberg products like dorico and spectralayer ...
in windows we have silk emulator r2r and we can use all of products No interference with C13 legit !
I know that every Windows and Mac are different in every way
So you can't compare these two operating systems in terms of crack
I just wanted to know that even though I have the legal version of Cubis, can I use other cracked Steinberg products on my Mac along with the legal version of Cubis?

 

AMD Ryzen "hackintoshes" are risky.
Because some softwares uses Intel only instructions.
And most ppl discover it when it is too late.

Adobe/virtualization don"t work on AMD Ryzen hackintosh.
And there is more.

So my point of view : Apple M or AMD Win

 

Do you have a link to that spreadsheet? Also where else would you find everything k'd for Mac if not the sister site?

 

My post wasn't answering you specifically, or I would have quoted your post. Unless you are also the OP in the thread. Just general information.

But No, I do not think you can mix and match Legit/Sister Site versions of the Steinberg products. As someone mentioned above, you do one or the other. For me that would be an easy decision anyway. VR does not charge $100 for updates every 6 months. I use Logic, not Cubase. I do not know if I would actually switch from Windows to Mac if I still used Cubase now. The main reason I am a Mac user is because Logic is the DAW I have used since I last used Cubase, and that was Cubase SX. No thanks.

 

That's what I think, too, and I wrote about it in my first post. There are some workarounds for Adobe software floating around, but I only trust in what I tested myself.

My new 7800X3D PC build is just so powerful I would really like to try to run macOS on it. And all of this just because I'm used to work with Logic.

If I had chosen Cubase 30 years ago, maybe I would never have bought any Mac at all.

 

best answer for me !
So , i'm interested working with logic pro even instead of cubase , if i go to macOS , Logic Pro i think is best choice , cubase in windows and mac is a same, k'd of logic pro is okay ?
as i mentiod before i have intel i9 9900K hackintosh and im working with this for many years , logic pro is okay with intel cpus ?

 

While I would hope that is true of the legit cubase version a quick perusal of sisite comments paints a different picture of the scene release versions on apple M products.