Hello everyone, wish you all a wonderful day.


I just got one simple thing, but don't know how to do it. I want to randomize a little bit the position of midi notes I made with the riffer of Ample guitar.


The problem is that ample riffer creates quite complex midi parts with lots of keyswitches going on, so I just can't do normal randomization as I would usually do with normal midi parts.


Does anyone know how to do it?


Thanks in advance.

 

Use a midi filter to filter out the keyswitches in the lower octaves or wherever they're located. https://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-midifilter has a "MIDI Key-Range Filter", or just google "MIDI FILTER VST" and look for freeware.

 

There is a randomization function in the MIDI Modifiers section of the Inspector on MIDI/Instrument tracks. This will apply either on playback or at input. If you want the modifiers to apply to notes you input, you have to turn on MIDI Thru in Preferences under MIDI. If you want to apply the modifiers to MIDI notes that are already there, you have to go to MIDI > Freeze MIDI Modifiers. Be aware, this will also apply other things like any Transpose values and Track Delay.

Edit: There is also a Logical Editor preset to randomize position by +/-10 ticks in the MIDI menu, you can apply this to a selection.

 

Last edited: Jul 26, 2024

you just need a Logical editor preset with randomization of positions but with range limits
if you dont know how to do it I can make it for you

please post a screenshot of the midi part (from the piano roll)so I can see the range of the notes to randomize and and the range of the keyswitch notes to leave untouched

 

You can manually set the range with the range tool, then MIDI > Logical Editor > Apply Preset without having to predefine it in the script.

 

obviously you can
but if you can save a preset for a specific instrument range why not do it?

If you have a complex/long midi file you have to zoom out then precisely select, and sometimes the keyswitch notes are so closed to the lowest active notes that you can easily miss something. With the LE preset you can do the job even without entering the piano roll, just selecting the midi part from the project window

if you can do the job with a 1 button click wouldnt be better?

 

Hey, great to see you again!


You're my savior when it comes to Cubase problems. hahaha



Thank you very much for the answer.


Here is the screenshot.

 

here's the settings for the Midi Logical Editor, you have just to copy and save, then you can apply the randomization without selecting notes, you can also apply it without entering the midi part, just select the midi clip from the project window and apply the Midi Logical Editor preset from a key shortcut

here it randomize +/- 10 ticks, you can change this value obv

 

Does this work for keyswitches, though? I mean, the relationship between note ends, or note starts and their keyswitches can be very intricate... you'd have to have a way of rushing/dragging notes and their respective keyswitches without changing the vertical relation between them. And even if that were possible, note ends for slides, hammer-ons and pull-offs would probably be damaged.

 

nope

its just a matter of "pitch inside range", just apply the PLE i posted and dont worry : ) it works flawlessly

 

I guess it doesn't work at all... It just randomizes playable notes. So, it scrambles the relationship between notes and their respective keyswitches.

 

My thoughts exactly! As I understand it, this could never be simple to work outside of the engine. How would a generic DAW script know the specific relationship between the note and the slide out keyswitch, which is different from the pop keyswitch/note relationship or the hammer-on keyswitch/note relationship... not to mention the force string keyswitches... and then randomize their horizontal position in an interlocked fashion, that is, treating each group as a joint set? And this just considering solo notes; if you consider strummed chords, the solution becomes even more complex. One would need such a targeted, tailored script, that it could be contained inside Ample's Riffer, which could be improved: as far as I know, as of 2024, if you want to rush notes, you have to select the whole set (note, forced string and articulation) and drag by hand, note by note, chord by chord.

 

Last edited: Sep 29, 2024

That script works for the VSTi I use. if the VSTi is well known I think that Cubase PLE could work. First of all, keyswitches should be played before the real notes, possibly at a fixed value, not at the same time. VSTi I use sometimes fail to change sample if dont have time.

Unfortunately I dont understand how that specific instrument work, why there are 3 switches together. It needs some time, but I think it is possible to put inside the script all the options. It's a matter of work and will to success.