So everyone is a teacher.

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  1. ᑕ⊕ֆᗰIᑢ

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    But is it a win rendered aiff, or a MAC rendered AIFF?
     
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    can't you hear it?!!....it's linux man!! :rofl:
     
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    If you're not learning everything about music production from Weaver Beats, you are not learning:
     
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    probably only 0,1% is the real educator .. because mostly there's nothing FREE in YouTube, they'll give you chunk by chunk and charged you for more
     
  5. Sylenth.Will.Fall

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    When it comes to You Tube, there is nobody I trust more than Dan Worrall!


    I'm funny enough, currently watching this:-


     
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    Ahhh the archenemy of BusyWorkBeats.
     
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    One of the better ones, for sure.

    I'd like to think people have time properly allotted for both, but I could be wrong. :winker:

    Youtube is fine if you know what you're looking for, get in and get out, and are aware of the traps set in place. I usually look up stuff by people who I follow outside of that den of idiocy, stuff by producers, musicians, and audio guys who aren't Youtube-born.

    To add a few suggestions, so it's not just a thread of hopeless doom 'n gloom of the wasteland that YT has become:

    - Mixing with Mike, for plugin showcases, who has a lot of real-world experience in classic studios
    - Mastering.com, with a strong line-up of engineers who've worked in various genres for years
    - Jazz Piano School, if you play keys, which excels in showing you how to build music, not just memorize chords and scales
    - Eddie Leonard, who has a unique, mini-chops sampling style (instead of looping the same nine-second Bill Withers cuts to death,) that's just generally inspiring as far as creating goes, even if you don't make or aren't interested in sampled beats.

    There's others, obviously, but those are a few notable ones that I keep coming back to.
    And—honorable mention—I don't make Electro-Dance-House-Techno-Trance or whatever kids are calling it these days, but let's be real, Kilohearts Sound Design Snack videos showcasing how to use their ecosystem to wrestle audio into strange shapes are always interesting.

    Trying to be more optimistic and positive than I'm generally known to be... we'll see how long that lasts in 2024. :rofl:
     
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    I assumed (hoped) that was on everyone's list, but points for throwing it out there. :shalom:
     
  9. Sylenth.Will.Fall

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    @eXACT_Beats_ Cheers Buddy

    I agree, there are some very talented people out there in You Tube Land, but the one who stands out for his sheer knowledge and exceptional way he explains things no matter what level you are at,. (for me certainly ) is Dan
     
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    The only answer I can see of any value to you is to find someone who is doing what you love and either learn from them or from someone who does the same thing really well.
     
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    E-clip is certainly a good producer. I imagine his content is worth a look for anyone interested in psytrance.
     
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    Those who cant do ,Teach. Those who can do, are busy doing it.
     
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    The thing is that YouTube works great for entertainment or basic knowledge. In-depth training or serious, unbiased reviews are not to be found there.

    At best, there's going to be someone you kind of trust or like to be used as a benchmark for opinion. For instance, yesterday I was trying to learn about battery-operated hydro-power cleaners. I've never used one, and I got interested in those cheap Chinese ones. I'm not going to buy a DeWalt or become a car detailer. 15 minutes of YT vids gave me all the perspective I needed. Yesteryear, it would've taken me a trip to the different hardware stores, some phone calls, running estimates, and making appointments for demonstration to learn what YT gave me in a few minutes. BTW, those power cleaners are toys, but they are getting better and better, so it's a matter of waiting a bit more.

    Once you learn or know a craft a little better, TY starts to become less and less relevant. That's when it becomes apparent that everyone is pushing a product down your throat. I guess it only makes sense. We all develop a skillset with a little personal twist, a thing you discover that makes your mixes, recordings, and arrangements work for you. You're not going to give them away just like that ::::: except here :::::::

    What I love about this place (Foster included) is that you get a lot of truth and sincere advice from people who care enough to discuss the importance of YT and any other topic in a passionate, unbiased way (or totally biased and wholehearted) and that is a luxury you don't find mostly elsewhere.
     
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    The DVD era was the best. They'd hire someone who knows what they're doing, produce 4 discs of meaningful content on the topic and be done and move on.

    No bonus DLC content.

    No "I have some important PDFs waiting for you on my Patreon".

    No clickbait thumbnails, titles or dumb faces.

    No PayPal, buymeacoffee, Patreon, OnlyFans.

    No micro doses of half-wrong knowledge spread out over hundreds of short videos where a third of the "content" is just begging for money.

    No low effort "I read the first paragraph on Wikipedia" "content".

    No random interruptions scumming the algorithm - "I went to public school and can't figure out 2 + 2, write in the comments if you're edumacated".
     
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  16. Katze

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    Dan Worrall and Paul Third for mixing, Ian Shepherd for mastering.
     
  17. Katze

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    Lol it was way worse years ago, like back in 2018 or so. Back then you needed your video to be at least 10 minutes long in order to get ad revenue.
    Guess what happened, morons started stretching 30 seconds of content into 10 minutes and made hundreds of videos.
    Nowadays you just have the "I know it all better" types that are annoying, basically unaware narcissists who like hearing themselves talk, back then nearly everyone was annoying and a hustler and a grifter, be glad you didn't experience that :P

    Their older videos are gold, but nowadays all they do is testing out plugins to get placement money

    Isn't that the guy who is having beef with BusyWorkBeats? Man there's a war going on right now :lmao:

    And imo that video isn't that great. "HOW MANY NEW PLUGINS HAVE TO COME OUT OMG!!!!!!111 Now we need AI most likely durr!"
    Paul Third is a little more nuanced when he says EQs are easier to emulate than compressors and giving good arguments for why we should pay more attention to compressor emulations in the future.

    Maybe if he wasn't engaged in cyber bullying another producer back and forth he could actually learn his craft?

    If the DVDs were good, yeah. Were they? I recall "The Art of Mixing", that's more like an VHS, but it's definitely not for learning mixing exhaustively, more like a funny video to watch while being on drugs

    Rick Beatos videos are great, just not all the clickbait "old man yells at cloud" videos.
    He is a decent guitarist and you can learn a lot about guitar no matter how experienced you are.
    You know, all the tutorial guys you see will have something you disagree with, just pick the best parts and leave the crap to them.

    Not neccessarily, but I would say just because you're good at working with music doesn't mean you're good at teaching your skills, that one is definitely true.

    You know, what about all the great musicians whose music just doesn't get a chance and are forced to teach music? And don't tell me the music business is a meritocracy lmao.

    Beethoven had to teach in order to make a living, and nothing much has changed over the centuries unfortunately.
     
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    Dan Worrall
     
  19. Somnambulist

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    It is likely that most of the greats admired will all say "I was taught by..."
    Find a one-on-one teacher who knows their stuff. On the Internet and in forums, everyone's an expert. If the person has 20 years in the industry, the odds are pretty good that they learned more than someone who doesn't even have a decade of true professional experience.
     
  20. zpaces

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    See guys, that's what I'm talking about. Everyone comes with different "teachers".
    And this is exactly today's problem. When you start in music production you will be lost. You don't know where to start.
    Answers and suggestions are so different. It's hard to find an own way, because it's a mess!
     
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