I'm talking about Heavyocity Punish v1.0.2
which is on sister site since 17.09.24...
I visited the developer site and found this:
"PUNISH is uniquely watermarked for each individual customer
All files in PUNISH are watermarked using a propriety technology
Customers may be required to provide their full Identification for authorization purposes"

So, the questions are:
Did R2R remove WM from the plugin?
Are there the same things with plugins by others?

PS. I found it (WM) in plugin for the first time...and before only some KONTAKT libraries were watermarked

 

Render out a test file. Send somebody that test file. Have the person render out the test file using the same DAW and plugin settings you used, but with a legit (trial?) copy of the plugin instead of the R2R release. If the resulting files are identical (same checksum, not null test), then there's no watermarking.

 

I think it means that every installer is watermarked by customer id, so they can find who provide the source.

 

Yeah, that's it. I think Hornet plugins do the same thing, even though they are DRM-free (a pretty clever trick imo).

 

Captain obviosity? All the audio watermarking purpose is tracking no more no less

 

so what is the purpose of your question? If it’s obvious for you, how the fuck R2R could miss that thing, Captain Obvious? What did you expected? A statement from R2R? Grow up or learn rev eng to check yourself.

 

bullshit. it haven't any watermarks and downloading from one link for all.

 

Only one person directly replied to what I asked here: Hornet plugins also watermarked, thanks to him

 

Do you have a magic spotlight to find they are absent?

 

People talk about watermarking for decades now. There is an old thread here on this very forum.
Imo it's all just a scare tactics to make you not use cracked plugins because no way they can reverse engineer that from a finished track and sue you for it.
Maybe they know you're the culprit but there has been no verdict spoken because of a watermark to my knowledge, that says it all.

 

Sorry I just had to do it take it as friendly banter, English ain't my native language as well

 

how can files downloaded from the same link be different?
I can download installers from two different accounts. and they will also be the same.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/heavyocity.public/Punish_1_0_2_WIN.zip
https://s3.amazonaws.com/heavyocity.public/Punish_1_0_3_MAC.zip

are these can be watermarked?

the developer writes the same words about his libraries, but this is not true. during their cooperation with Continuata, some of their libraries had watermarks (they still have watermarks), but everything they have done in the last 4 years has no watermarks.

 

Last edited: Sep 18, 2024

Well it’s possible.
when generating a download link, a downloader ID is embedded in the file by simple script. It takes a few seconds.

Hornet as example. Watermark can be read by opening the vst in an text editor that supports Macintosh ANSI encoding and comparing it differentially with a plug-in downloaded from another source/account.

 

no. there are different download links.

 

aleksalt you should not downvote a comment from someone who is actually the only one in this thread dealing activly with such stuff , someone which must know his shit so heshe not getting busted

 

yes, hornet use watermarks in their plugins.
but direct link for each plugin (zip) is unique and contain user email address (as subdirectory name), here is example:

Code:

https://www.hornetplugins.com/delivery/username_at_email.me/HoRNetVSTName-0.0.1.zip

P.S. also file "user.dat" contain watermark data as text (file be founded here: ANY_Hornet_Plugin/Contents/Resources/)